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russky
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i meant - maybe you are right about them listening to our concerns for uptodate information. 
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Winterkat
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:32 |
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| russky wrote: |
| i meant - maybe you are right about them listening to our concerns for uptodate information. |
Ah woops sorry 
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Dye
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:39 |
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Great.
I think this is the longest tracklist since TWM. |
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russky
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 14:43 |
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don't apologise Evy, it's not always clear how people say things on here 
very interesting post from before too but im one of those people stuck in a big company as a number right now.   They have recently given us an opportunity to become an environmental champion though which will shut us up! 
i don't think im that bothered what causes Jay has input in these days to be honest as im here primarily for the music. Im also not as naive to think he's all about saving the planet anymore.
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John Doggett
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 15:37 |
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Yes, it's been a looooong time that we haven't got 12 REGULAR TRACKS indeed! (Since TWM).
I remember that for Dynamite, the UK version featured Time Won't Wait (track 12, and the best track of the album) unlike the European version (and the rest of the world except USA and Japan).
This was a mystery because, until Dynamite UK version used to be the regular version.
I hope that this time we'll have ALL the 12 tracks!
And why not an hidden track (Remeber : Funktion/Deeper Underground/So Good To feel Real)
Ps: I think I'll buy the Japanese Version!
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Michael
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russky
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 16:49 |
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im not sure  i thought that was a Sony thing?
we will get to hear it anyway
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Jay_F
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 17:50 |
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i need to get a japanese album...
it's the one song i remember the most of ahaus, seriously, i need this album xD
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Winterkat
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 18:31 |
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| Michael wrote: |
wtf (why the f*ck) do the japanese people always get the extra-neverreleased-exclusive-bonus-tracks  ...??? |
Jay said on the BBC Radio 1 show on the 1st of September:
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| We've got about 19 in the bag. But on the album I think there is 12. And then, I think there is an extra one for the Japanese. Cos they always have to have an extra one... for some reason. |
I presumed it is part of the market demands in Japan and decided to look it up.
This is what I found on http://www.melodicrock.com/industry/insidestory.html
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The most frequently asked question I get is in regards to the Japanese bonus track issue.
After all, just about every Japanese release includes a bonus track. Why is this so?
Well, this situation goes back a long way and is a little more complicated.
To start - Japanese record labels still hold a lot of power. Not as much as a few years ago, but still, they can still shift a lot of copies of albums and are an important enough factor in most deals. In some instances, the advance from a Japanese label is vital to the overall deal in recording an album.
So, the labels have demands and they must be met. Why? The Japanese recording industry is a deregulated market. That means that anyone can sell anything from anywhere.
Record shops and wholesalers do not have to buy locally manufactured product from the local record labels.
As is well known, the Japanese CD price is very expensive - even for locals. Stores are free to source cheaper imports - from the USA and from Europe.
In the USA, if stores did this, the labels would cut them off at the knees! It was the same here in Australia for many years until recently. Back to that in a minute...
With cheaper imports available on the market, the Japanese labels add extra's to the local releases to entice consumers to buy their product. It works so well, these same labels end up exporting units to overseas collectors.
So, these labels add one, two, sometimes more bonus tracks, add special photo booklet's, stickers, guitar picks, expanded cases, special packaging and all of the above to ensure the local pressing is the one in demand.
They also have one other major trick up their sleave. They can and do enforce and advance release over other territories.
Generally, the label deals in Japan have a clause that stipulates that their release date (of any given album), must be at least four, sometimes 6 weeks in advance of any other territory.
In the recent case of a very well know singer - his solo album was not permitted to be released outside Japan for at least 8 weeks after the local release. It was a clause in the contract!
That gives the local labels time to saturate the market and in the few cases where no bonus tracks are available, at least no copies can be imported for a set time, until they are releases elsewhere. |
Hope this helps
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Javis
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 18:53 |
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| Winterkat wrote: |
Hope this helps |
HUGE THAAAAAAAANKS!!!
I always wondered that!!!! |
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Fesapo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 03:33 |
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This will be the first time I'll be able to actually buy the Japanese edition of a new Jamiroquai album in Japan at a local store. Can't wait! |
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Yusuke
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 08:08 |
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Hi.
This is Japanese article.
http://ro69.jp/blog/kojima/40597
According to this article, producer said...
1)Japanese edition will be added two or three bonus tracks.
2)These 12 tracks are not conclusive track list.
Sorry about poor translation. |
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ririka
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:02 |
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thanks Yusuke!
jay may possibly come to japan in nov? really?
11月にでるんだね～立ち読みしよ  |
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russky
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 13:52 |
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Also if they have 19 tracks in the bag, then surely some will be for b-sides
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JamiroFan2000
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| Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 19:02 |
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| russky wrote: |
| Also if they have 19 tracks in the bag, then surely some will be for b-sides |
Interesting....so 13-14 tracks for Japanese release, the standard 12 tracks for domestic release. And, IF they put out a 'Deluxe edition' release, be a few weeks/months after the initial release, they would probably put an extra 2-3 tracks, including/not including the ones that were on Japanese release, which leaves about 4-5 songs from the last sessions. So, using that way of thinking, RDLS will probably have 3 single releases, at most, if coupled/uncoupled with the stray songs as B-Sides. Thanks for the quick translation Yusuke, much appreciated ! Cheers!
Sincerely,
JamiroFan2000
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