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Lydster
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Hey, Butterfly, I don't like it either, but it's not because of the dangerous aspect. It's just another expensive millionaire game where the "rich and beautiful" (well more or less beautiful) have their fun among each other and think they don't have to care about the rules, which are the German laws this time. I mean, I don't find it stupid that they don't care about the rules, I don't care about them either, I just think that...well...this is not the Jay from Space Cowboy or Emergency times anymore, no matter what the High Times booklet says. We all know he has changed, but I'm not the only fan who doesn't want to accept that. I don't say anything against his musical change, but things like that are exactly what he criticised in songs like When You Gonna Learn, Revolution (he wanted to fight the power, is he already done? I actually wanted to help him!) or Scam: it's capitalism. Pure capitalism. Face the truth: Jay's a capitalist. And that's the trouble about capitalism: the richer you get, the nicer capitalism becomes for you. The REAL Jay, the little skater kid with no money, but a whole lotta funk beneath his hat, he probably would have done his own rallye. Three times round London and then trying to get away from the police - to get away from the police, not even to pay the speeding tickets! That's what the REAL Jay would have done, the Jay from times when he still tried to express something with his funk, when he still talked about creativity in interviews, when he still had Stu and Toby sitting by his side...and when he was not that fucking licked "let's play the rock star for the press" celebrity asshole.
Hmmm, what did he say at Rock im Park last year, during Deeper Underground: "Shoot people with a pocket full of money..." ...He wants us to KILL him? |
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funkynicki
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 18:31 |
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Yeah, this are my "super" 2 pics from this long, long Gumball-Night 
"the Antonov"
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Ivy
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 19:46 |
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maybe its not about the flashiness of it just the love for the cars, people (not stars the way we see them), and the road ,its possible..
people with pocket full of money ...
is he talking about transnationial corporations that are selfishncause some kind of harm? then yeah go for it ...not me.
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dynamite_love
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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Location: This town deserves a better class of criminal, and im gonna give it to them.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 20:00 |
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there are more in getty 
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Zilali
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Location: Seattle
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 21:38 |
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I'm glad Jay is in the Gumball race. It seems like the most real, personal thing he has done in a long time. At least he actually likes cars and driving - it is better than shilling for Clarion or breaking some ridiculuos record.
Now when you get back Jay, write some decent music for us!
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FRA
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deesh
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 01:47 |
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Not sure if someone posted this one...
http://news.independent.co.uk/people/pandora/article2499319.ece
German police put the skids on Gumball drivers
By Henry Deedes
Published: 01 May 2007
The annual Gumball Rally, a madcap seven-day road race around Europe, is in danger of causing a major diplomatic rift with our European neighbours in Germany.
The celebrity-laden race, which this year features the likes of the Jamiroquai singer Jay Kay and the entrepreneur Michael Ross as drivers, kicked off to great fanfare on Sunday when the drivers set off from London's Pall Mall.
Unfortunately, as they roared through Germany, they found themselves thwarted in Frankfurt by a series of roadblocks which had been set up by spoilsport German police.
"The Germans basically agreed to allow us to race on their roads, and now appear to have rescinded on that agreement," a frustrated Ross tells me. "We were due to be flown out with our vehicles to Istanbul today and continue the race there, but the police have impounded our cars and won't release them. Apparently, they're now trying to persuade the police in Istanbul to not allow us to race there either."
Last night, the organisers were said to be in frantic negotiations to get the cars released. But for the time being, the 120-odd competitors are understandably miffed - the cost of entering the 3,000-mile race is a hefty £28,000.
As for Ross, it's the second setback he's suffered so far. As last year's winner, he was due to have the Hollywood actress Juliette Lewis accompanying him as a passenger.
"Her manager rang up at the last minute and said she had other commitments," he adds.
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samantha1170
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 02:44 |
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Here's an update from gtspirit.com...
Team 103 Update from Turkey
April 30th, 2007
The Gumballers arrived in Turkey with their Gumball passenger plane but now the German police is causing trouble again! Paul of Team 103 reporting from the plane:
“German police stopped over 60 cars last night…. Now the germany police will not allow the Antonov plane with all the cars to take off in gemany so we are stuck in turkey sitting on the runway on a shit turkey airways plane with no plans of getting our flown over vehicle.
Guess I should look on the good side just had a massive pillow fight and jay kay, xibit, and danny dyer.”
We will keep you informed!
SAMANTHA
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MissyM
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 03:37 |
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Thanx 4 finding all these pix and info I think it's interesting to see what happens.. I think it's all starting to go Pear Shaped!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry for seeing the funny side to this.. but .. 
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| Guess I should look on the good side just had a massive pillow fight and jay kay, xibit, and danny dyer.” |
This gumball rally reminds me a of a skool camp!!! Where all the kids were naughty and had their toys taken away from them.. Then to take out frustration everyone starts having Pillow fights and being obnoxious to "Authority"..
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Lydster u sound pretty jaded..  That's a shame..
I think alot must be going on in your life for you to be so negative.. U don't have any control over what other ppl do (including jay) so don't let them get u down too much..
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Cosmic Girl
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 06:32 |
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| Zilali wrote: |
or breaking some ridiculuos record.
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ha ha ha ........ |
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jameerica
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 09:37 |
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| Lydster wrote: |
| this is not the Jay from Space Cowboy or Emergency times anymore, no matter what the High Times booklet says. We all know he has changed, but I'm not the only fan who doesn't want to accept that. I don't say anything against his musical change, but things like that are exactly what he criticised in songs like When You Gonna Learn, Revolution (he wanted to fight the power, is he already done? I actually wanted to help him!) or Scam: it's capitalism. Pure capitalism. Face the truth: Jay's a capitalist. And that's the trouble about capitalism: the richer you get, the nicer capitalism becomes for you. The REAL Jay, the little skater kid with no money, but a whole lotta funk beneath his hat, he probably would have done his own rallye. Three times round London and then trying to get away from the police - to get away from the police, not even to pay the speeding tickets! That's what the REAL Jay would have done, the Jay from times when he still tried to express something with his funk, when he still talked about creativity in interviews, when he still had Stu and Toby sitting by his side... |
i completely agree with everything you said.i just hope that sometime soon he is gonna realize what a prick he's become himself and try to change that.and capitalism sucks!
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deesh
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Another one about Germany and stopping the race..
http://www.rp-online.de/public/article/aktuelles/panorama/deutschland/434098
Translation:
Illegal motorrace In Germany stopped
Koblenz (RPO). Of London over Istanbul and Athens crosswise by Europe: In eight days the participants of the motorrace "Gumball want to put 3000" 3000 miles back on public roads. At the night to Monday some by them in Germany by the police were stopped. But illegal running has its attraction. Also prominent one pulls it again and again behind the steering wheel.
The Rallye was brought 1999 by Maximillion Cooper from England into being. "Gumball 3000" takes place in this year already for the ninth time. Running was started according to data of the organizers in the Sunday afternoon and is to go on coming Saturday to end. In the past years prominent ones and well-known personalities sat down to Quentin Tarantino and singer Jamiroquai also again and again into the racing cars, under it.
"Gumball 3000" was classified under Germany as illegal and stopped therefore. How the police in Mendig reported with Koblenz, when running of this year alone 52 participants in the lay-by Brohltal were stopped and controlled with Koblenz. 16 further drivers were stopped at the GermanBelgian border as well as in Hessen and North Rhine-Westphalia. The continuation of running on German soil was forbidden.
According to data of the police already six drivers had been surprised before with partly clear exceeding the speed limit. Like that a German driver with 150 kilometers per hour is gebraust by a speed 80-zone. The running express takers were on the way from London to the airport cock. There the vehicles of the participants are to be shipped into airplanes and brought after Istanbul. Subsequently, is illegal running over South-east Europe, which lead back Slowakei and Berlin to London.
As the police far reported, those had to deposit predominantly foreign driver because of the penalty a security of in each case 420 euro, which can be expected. The drivers in two of the police supervised convoys are subsequently, permitted to continue driving to the airport cock. Thus it was prevented that the participants in running driver manners continued their way.
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dynamite_love
Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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Location: This town deserves a better class of criminal, and im gonna give it to them.
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http://forums.gumball3000.com/viewtopic.php?t=2472&sid=38c44afbfd4848568f852cb847b5e840
=) NEWS
Jay Kay in Bratislava
Tuesday, May 1st, 2007
Team 2 (Jay Kay (Jamiroquai) & Nigel Cooper) skipped the flight to Istanbul and drove straight from Frankfurt-Hahn to Bratislava. A GTspirit member spotted the Maserati Quattroporte on the highway towards Bratislava. The live tracker revealed that they stayed in Munchen overnight and arrived in Bratislava 10 minutes ago.
The reason why they skipped the flight to Istanbul is not known at the moment, but we will let you know as soon as we find out!
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Lydster
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 17:21 |
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MissyM, there's nothing bad going on in my life, I just said that Jay became really really capitalistic and a fucking celebrity asshole, some kind of male Paris Hilton. I know for him it's mainly about the cars, but if it was just because of the cars, he, as I said, could aswell take some friends and do his own race around Europe. That way he would have saved a lot of money that's now lost for the Gumball ticket. But Gumball is not only racing, and that's the trouble: It's parties and fun among the celebrities AND ONLY the celebrities. That's the thing that makes me angry. Those people just take themselves too important and think they're it. They're saying: "Look at us, we're having so much fun among us and YOU'RE not allowed to be in!" They think just because they're rich and famous everyone looks up to them and says: "i wanna have that too!" That way we get some kind of 2-class society: The celebs in their "great" world and the "normal" people who want to be in there too (at least the celebs wish that the normals want to live there). I never knew Jay enjoys being among celebrities. I always thought he's one of us, a funky one of us, and that he rather likes to have a good discussion about funk music or politics with a fan or a friend instead of that superficial smalltalk about the latest most expensive watches or Louis Vuitton bags or whatever with those fake smile people. But seemingly Jay isn't one of us anymore. I think Sony managed to do what they wanted to do with Jay: Shut him up. He used to be loud and used to say what no one wanted to hear, so they simply filled his mouth with money so that he now can't tell the world what he thinks anymore. I think BECAUSE he's rich now, he should do even more against the bad things in the world, like charity gigs, advertisement for good organisations and stuff like this. Or at least go back to studio and hurry up with his new album, I'm already drying out. I wish he'd live on the street again, just for a month or a week, so that he sees again what fight many streetkids and he too, of course, have to fight everyday, not knowing where to take the money for food or drinks, not knowing where to sleep in a cold winter's night, not knowing if they're actually able to survive the next day...- he once got stabbed in a fight, didin't he? I wonder if he has already forgotten this? So read again what he said about "the paper" in the Emergency booklet. He said that "the paper" should be used to feed and educate children or to save the rainforest or to fight corruption AND NOT TO DO SUCH A STUPID RALLY WHICH YOU CAN ACTUALLY ALSO DO FOR FREE!!! If it was for some charity reason, then ok, but this way? As I said, just a stupid and useless AND DANGEROUS - and capitalistic of course - millionaire game. They could aswell throw their money out of their windows, I think they'd help more people with that. I think Jay simply doesn't know what to do with his money anymore. And seemingly he has arranged himself with "the power". The old Jay, from Space Cowboy or even Emergency times, he would have known what to do with the money: He'd given it to organisations who build up schools in Africa, save the nature, help poor people and get kids from the street. But he seems to have forgotten his actual target. Of course: now it's not his problem anymore. HE's got money! Pretty egoistic.
So I don't wanna sound like a funbrake, but i really have to say I like the thought that the GERMAN (!!!) police stops those capitalist celebs and that the millionaire rally maybe even has to be cancelled. Or, if they continue, I hope one of them gets injured when they arrive in Berlin. And NOT injured by a car, but by something (or shall I say someONE?) less capitalistic.
One last thing: Jay used to break the rules because he knew they were useless. Now he breaks them because he has money?!? I think this guy is bored. Just bored.
(Hope you agree with me again, jameerica...) |
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deesh
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 17:43 |
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| Lydster wrote: |
| But Gumball is not only racing, and that's the trouble: It's parties and fun among the celebrities AND ONLY the celebrities |
Just wanted to say that there is a racing team that is charity oriented. They are doing the race in hopes of raising awareness of overcoming odds and struggles in life to live out your dreams because the people behind it have. Not saying this is the best way to get the message out there about this, but the organization is just starting up and yes..there are rich people behind it (Steve Schimmel - Google founder - who actually has a pretty inspiring story), but I still think it's a dope idea to make it about something to spread a message. Not saying doing something illegal for charity is justifiable.
As far as parties and fun with only celebrities...the team will be doing work in 2 different countries on behalf of peace and friendship, and they are rumored to be donating money in those regions for things like education, food, etc. Their efforts and Gumball race is being supported by the UN actually...which is kinda strange to me, but just wanted to let you know.
And off topic..I wonder if we'll see a collabo between Jay and X.
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