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Pepela
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Plasma or LCD TV?...
Csn anybody explain me the difference between plasma and lcd tv-s and what's better? I mean the way they show colours, and which one is better? I wanna buy new TV and can't understand difference between them:))) |
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jameerica
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 19:59 |
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lcd-liquid cristal display
and plasma runs on gas as far as i know8don't listen to me for advise on technics!)
i dunno which one's better tho,i have a plasma works great for me;)
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DiscoStu
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 20:27 |
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A Plasma set will be better for watching movies (if that's what you want it for) because it has a much better colour range than LCD screens (and much "deeper" blacks), and it's also very bright.
LCD displays can get "dead" pixels after some time, but Plasma displays may have a burned-in picture if you use it at full bright for long periods of time.
Out of that... I did a research on this for school a couple of years ago but actually I don't remember much. So you better wait for the opinion of some others before making your decision.
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freaky
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 22:38 |
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So, if in doubt....if you try to research and still cannot find much of a difference...
Go for the look of the "tv" (i know it is not a TV!)
Or go for the price.
What i remember of an old article, Plasma had better results but was more expensive.
And something about the plasma running out but that could be refilled???
But, that article was old, and ppl making LCD screens have not been sitting on their hands (i think/hope)
Maybe the difference is in energy?
I do know that LCD screens consume loads of energy if compared to a regular TV.
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DiscoStu
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 03:40 |
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Yes, but the power consumption in Plasma screens is even higher.
Like freaky said... if you can't come up with something truly useful after some research... just pick the one that you like the best 
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 09:02 |
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pepela, what size of tv are you looking for and what source of tv-signal (digital/analog/HD/DVD/game/computer) is your main source for viewing? depending on the size you are looking for it might be better to get a plasma or an lcd.
i wouldn't recommend a plasma unless you want a 50 inch screen or more. the 'plasmas are brighter and have better contrast'-stories still go around but they are not true anymore, actually. with the new range of sony bravias and samsungs M86 and M87 series the first lcds that have 'whiter and white' and 'blacker than black'-features. |
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Pepela
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:14 |
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Well, size approximately 50-60" and source is digital, analog,HD and DVD (no games and no computer)
And I've heard that you can't repair plasma tv, after 6 years you have to throw it away coz it just shadows....
And what about lcd-if it has dead pixels-is it possible to repair them and if no how they occure? |
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 14:47 |
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50" - 60", eh? well, that is one big tv. how big is your living room? if you're sitting too close to it, you will be loosing the advantage of the big screen! plus be aware that the panels over 50" are very "young" in their life span and haven't had the practical longtime use yet. and don't underestimate the power usage of those beasts!
what HD source will you be using? and what HD material have you settled for? HD-DVD or Bluray? a piece of advice: if you want to go for hd-dvd (which i wouldn't recommend) do NOT buy the xbox360 and the hd-drive as a player. it only offers HDMI 1.2, the drive is quite slow and the xbox itself has the tendency to overheat and go bust.
okay, what's your tv-signal? digital or analogue? the problem with lcds is if you have an analogue tv signal it will most probably look very crap on your tv, while your digital footage like dvds (given the fact that the encoding is good) will look very good. if you mainly watch tv and can't get a digital signal, you probably want to settle for a plasma as the analogue display on a plasma is a lot better than on an lcd.
the size of the tv you want will require a good source for playing your digital media such as dvd though and you might want to look into buying a dvd player that allows upscaling, has a decent upscaler build in and offers you an HDMI output so you can have the video directly transmitted to your tv.
advice here if you want to go for blueray: the playstation3 offers a very good upscaler with it's latest system update (V 1.8 ) and brings you a bluray player as well.
no matter what you go for, make sure of two things: a tv this size HAS TO HAVE hdmi 1.3 inputs (NOT 1.2!) and it has to support 1080p. if you can wait a little bit, wait for a 1080p/24fps display though as otherwise you might see some jerking movements on screen with your HD sources.
do you want to wall-mount it or place it on the floor? if space is not an issue i might would recommend a plasma back projector instead of a flat screen as the life span of those babies is longer.
if you want to go for a flat screen, i would probably recommend on of the sony bravias. make sure you get one that uses the bravia x engine, not the bravia engine. they are both very good engines, but again with a screen of this size, you will want to go for the best thing possible just to be future proof. sony uses panels bought from samsung in their tvs, so there will be no difference in technical terms between sony and samsung when it comes to the panels. the rest of the equipment is quite different though. samsung gives the user more choices to adjust the picture to their likings and handles digital tv footage a little better than a sony, while sony handles analogue footage better and has the better contrast.
be aware that HDTVs are not as easy to set up as regular STVs. so most of the time there is no 'out of the box for brilliant picture quality' but lots of adjusting will be needed.
when you check out the tvs in a store insist on a few things (keep in mind, you will spend quite some money on it! your local dealer should be able to help you to your liking instead of just being after a sale!): that they hook up a HD source to the tv that you want to buy, that they turn the lights up if possible (most tv show rooms are rather dark) and that they turn down the sharpness of the panel. most hdtvs in a showroom have the sharpness set very high, because it looks like you have a higher picture quality. this is actually not true, it gives the picture sharper edges but doesn't increase the picture quality.
it might be that the life span of a plasma or lcd is not as long as the one of an stv, but you can be sure in five years time something bigger and better will be out there anyway.
dead pixel on lcds: there are a few methods out there to fix dead pixel (colour "massages" for example) but i wouldn't recommend it at all, as all those methods let your panel age unnaturally fast.
in general this is not a big problem anymore as most of the panel manufacturers have managed their production output to a very high standard. and if you have a 1080p display, you are constantly looking at 1920 x 1080 pixel, which is over 2 million pixel. to spot one dead pixel will take you quite some time.
plasmas will not suffer from dead pixels but in this case you can suffer from some 'clouding' (darker or lighter areas on the screen), or colour clouding (areas on screen are slightly tinted in one colour)
confused yet?  okay, i'll stop for now even though there is probably more you want to look out for. and yes, as you can tell, i've been dealing with this subject for quite some time now myself |
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Lydster
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 15:25 |
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There's a solution for people like you, and this solution is called OLED. Better colours, longer life and very little energy consumption than both LCD and plasma. Unfortunately I think you won't find many of them to buy yet... |
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Maxud
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 16:05 |
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| Lydster wrote: |
| There's a solution for people like you, and this solution is called OLED. Better colours, longer life and very little energy consumption than both LCD and plasma. Unfortunately I think you won't find many of them to buy yet... |
hehehe
oleds are an innovation from germany!!!
like they said its an organic display
but the colours and the longer life... oled loose their quality with the time! after a time the colours arent anymore soo good.
i dont think that there are at the moment tv screens with 50" or more on the "official marked".
ah ive forgotten... ole-displays can be printed on a foil!!!
engineers hope that they could make in the future books with oleds inside.
you shouldnt buy an oled yet if you could find a display...
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 17:12 |
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| Sony didn't say when its STE OLED technology might make it to market. |
so much about the discussion of OLED it's far too early.
i just came back from currys here in town and they have a 62" panasonic true hd on display. and it looked sooooooooooooooooo... crap! £5500, but i wouldn't waste a penny on it! |
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Lydster
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| Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 18:00 |
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Mhhh...there's a company, I think some daughter of Philips, that will start delivering small black and white OLED displays at the end of this year. I just read Sony starts the market introduction of OLED TVs in 2008. |
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freeetz!
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FunkyDonkey
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 09:26 |
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| CosmicBear wrote: |
no matter what you go for, make sure of two things: a tv this size HAS TO HAVE hdmi 1.3 inputs (NOT 1.2!) and it has to support 1080p. if you can wait a little bit, wait for a 1080p/24fps display though as otherwise you might see some jerking movements on screen with your HD sources. |
Agree 100% Bear, those two are the requirements that could make the difference, I bought a 40" Sony KDL-40W2000 FullHD some months ago and although it was claimed to be the best LCD on the market around xmas, it lacks this support. The 1080p/24fps support can really make the difference if we're talking about high-end TVs.
Plasma/LCD, it doesn't matter, what really matters is the quality of the TV in terms of color/contrast linearity.
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 09:45 |
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i've checked your links. they are a bit out of date unfortunately. they mention that LCDs don't come in big screen sizes and say that plasmas have the risk of a burned in image in general (only happens when you have static images for a looooong time) so i wouldn't recommend them as a buying guide.
FD, that was exactly the TV i wanted to go for as well 
i've just read on the internet last night that sony is going to release the 3000-range this summer. and those will feature the 1080p/24fps support. guess, i have to wait a little bit longer before i buy |
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