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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 03:32    Reply with quote

The 'Manifest Destiny' Appreciation Thread
Hello Talkers

I couldn't help but posting this.

After the resurrection of 'The Kids' in the live setlist of the current 'tour' (is there a name for it? o we can just call it the 'I-can't-decide-with-hat-to-wear in-every-concert-of-the-2008-tour'?)

I made a little comeback to the Return Of The Space Cowboy album and listened to it all over again after a loooong period without listening any JMQ album (I do get those periods from time to time, this period in particular had me going through old 70's and 60's albums... I must be turning 45 next year, but no, I don't know what the hell is going on with my ears... but that's not important right now -now or never for that matter-)

So I put special attention to the track number 5, it has always been one of my favorites but this time I closed my eyes and listened to it in full, listening carefully what was Jay saying, and paying special atention to all that beautiful instrumentation... and I still think is one of the best songs Jamiroquai have recorded, and possibly their best yet (in my opinion).

The track is so rich, the lyrics are so meaningful, the music is just perfect, those last minutes are pure gold, and I really wish we had more music like that, not only from Jamiroquai but also from other artists. Music nowadays is not as good as it used to be.

Listening 'Manifest Destiny' is like a trip, it starts without really knowing where is going to take you, slowly, the bass line repeats itself until that piano kicks in. And Jay sings in a perfect tone, with many... don't know how to say it, different tones and registers that I think he lost along the way. And it ends so high (no cannabis reference here!) it makes the song to have a meaning and, ultimately how a song should be: a beginning, a middle and an end.

And like I said earlier, the last bit is my favorite, the music is soooo good, I... I.... I get musicorgasms!

Here is, for you ladies and gentlemen, Manifest Destiny:



As I remember
It was four-hundred years or more
Since you came to crucify.
And they were taken far away from home,
There were promises of Paradise.

But if they had been told that day
That they would be sold this way
To satisfy the souls of chosen men -
See I had to look carefully
At the shame of my ancestry
To re-define the storyline again. Hey!

(Chorus)
If I was taken for a day
And shown another way
Now every child can learn a different thing.
See I tried a million times,
But I had to change my mind, oh
Sadness was the best thing I could bring.
On the inside he was dead,
And this is what he said
As he took away the blue above the clouds;
Oh, superiority
Was clearly meant to be,
So destiny will manifest in time.'

So where has the love all gone?
A troubled trail of tears will tell the tale
Of how I was put down where I don't belong.
Oh, woman child and man for sale.

For ethical slavery
Is just an absurdity.
How can you be alive when you are dead?
With these chains of hypocrisy,
The shame of my ancestry,
Forever stained by blood in which you tread, hey.

(Chorus)
If I was taken for a day
And shown another way
Oh, now every child can learn a different thing.
See I tried a million times
But I had to change my mind, yeah now
Sadness was the best thing I could bring.
On the inside he was dead,
Oh and this is what he said
As he took away the blue above the clouds;
Oh, superiority
Was clearly meant to be,
So destiny will manifest itself in time, yeah.'

So where has the love all gone?
Said I want to know,
I want to know, I want to know
I want to know-ah.
Oh, somebody tell me where the love has all gone.
Said I want to know why?

Hey!





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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:46    Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:52    Reply with quote


I like that song too, but my favourite is "Just Another Story" followed by "Stillness in Time"!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:54    Reply with quote


Truly a beautiful song Very Happy

People hear Canned Heat and Cosmic Girl on their radio's and think that that's what Jamiroquai are all about? They couldn't be more wrong...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 16:26    Reply with quote


oh yes absolutely one of their best songs, if not THE BEST.

You have all the right elements in place, Stuart's excellent melodic bass work.

Jay's impeccable vocal (yes I know what you mean by register that is correct.)

and the lyrics are so meaningful, I mean this song almost sums up what it means to be "jamiroquai"

but remember the music used to be connected to "Let Me Believe" before Jay combined the Manifest Destiny Lyrics.

equally fantastic songs. the Let Me Believe has a little more "acid-jazz" feel with the horns.

you could possibly make one long song with both lyrics I suppose
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 17:08    Reply with quote


Yes D, lyric is meaningful really, ...and what about when the girl transmits on your frequancy Question is not that kinda musicorgasmic? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 18:19    Reply with quote


The most political track, perhaps 1 of the greatest songs of all time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 19:53    Reply with quote


'Manifest Destiny' alongside 'Stillness In Time' are two state-of-the-art songs by the band, and in my opinion TROTSC is Jamiroquai's magnum opus
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 20:05    Reply with quote


I saw this post, then went to see all the news about last day's gigs...and my attraction went on this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtOxHgjg814&feature=related

( still have to see Monaco Embarassed )

I love this song so much, and I love it for the same reason why I don't love King for a day that much.
Let see if I can explain myself.
For me the process to like/love a song is done by more levels, at least 2 and the 2 togheter make the all picture, the first is the musical part ( this sound so sweet to my ears, as king for a day) and the second is the lyric and this lyrics ( the shame of my anchestry by example remind me that this was written by english or partial english people) this lyric have a very strong meaning, as some of you said is political.
King for a day went wonderfully 'till first level, then...mmmm no further!
Ok all this to say that I really love 100% this song.
Hope you enjoy the video

Vere

PS sorry for my silence on forums...I needed some time to bring it all again on the correct focus and many things are happening in my life.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 00:12    Reply with quote


Manifest destiny is perhaps one of the most under-rated songs JMQ have recorded. It's fantastic in my opinion. SUCH a shame it wasn't played on the ROTSC tour 94' and 95'. Or at least not that we know of.

Although I think the most under-rated JMQ track of all time must be scam. The two minute jam at the end is a deep vibe, brilliant.

Both songs have strong messages, which really add to their power.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 18:55    Reply with quote

Instrumental Edit
Hey guys,
I found an old instrumental version of Manifest Destiny that I made some years ago. If anybody is interested, here is the link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/129952187/Manifest_Destiny__Instrumental_Edit_.mp3.html

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 04:20    Reply with quote


Manifest Destiny, in my opinion, has one of the letters deepest of the band, reeeeeally was written at a "magical" moment Jay.

and its only live version, Let Me Believe (Milano 93), is very emotive, shows the reason that Jamiroquai had come to the world.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 04:21    Reply with quote


SSP97,

the instrumental version is amazing!

nice job! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 13:54    Reply with quote


wow... Manifest Destiny...
for me it is the most professional song Jamiroquai played...

i luv it...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 15:29    Reply with quote


thing about this track is it has a whole lot of meaning to me coz i feel like ive lived that and i think there are stil many Africans who are living that terror

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So where has the love all gone?

it was never there Confused
Wow there's so much i wanna say be i think if i post these views ill be kicked off the site Rolling Eyes
silence is golden 2shhh however the perplexed ones views are platinum Mr. Green
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