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jamfan2005
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I'm sure that this will just get lost in the mass of posts, but I really do think that it sounds a lot like the 70's band ELO (Electric Light Orchestra). Very stringy, and "breathy" vocals. Anyone else agree? |
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iranterres
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 03:54 |
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| jamfan2005 wrote: |
| I'm sure that this will just get lost in the mass of posts, but I really do think that it sounds a lot like the 70's band ELO (Electric Light Orchestra). Very stringy, and "breathy" vocals. Anyone else agree? |
You just said what i was trying to remember 
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Jamirowolf
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Location: Houston
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 04:17 |
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To all of you saying this is disappointing...I TOLD YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now I truly believe the album will probably be crap.....I thought RDLS was crap, WKR is ok..as in..I can stand it..but Blue Skies will NEVER be played more than twice for me...what a boring, slow, Popsicle, caramel piece of crap!..I mean, come on, the old Jason would slap (correction, KICK) this 40-yr old version in a heartbeat
I have nothing against gay people..but is Jason coming out of the closet..one album at a time?...
So this is the "live, organic" sound...where the hell is the brass section? you gotta drop the backing vocals and get a DJ sampling..those backing vocals make your music sound more fruity than the 80's...
No chances on this being worth more than 2 cents (and I mean mexican cents which are 17 times less valuable than a euro!!)...can't wait for the torrent link...just to check it out, those files will be deleted by the next morning
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Jamirowolf
Joined: 05 Apr 2005
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Location: Houston
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 04:26 |
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| clapeyron wrote: |
have faith in the band that never let you down before |
Never let us down?...Need I remind you of 5 years of waiting time since the last album...which btw was itself a let down...along with the previous as well...
Oh yeah, and how they forgot about a market called north america (the US, Canada and Mexico...)
Oh they have let me down, many times...at least geographically dude.. |
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joeliroquai
Joined: 21 Aug 2004
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Location: Vancouver, Wa
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 04:38 |
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| Jamirowolf wrote: |
| clapeyron wrote: |
have faith in the band that never let you down before |
Never let us down?...Need I remind you of 5 years of waiting time since the last album...which btw was itself a let down...along with the previous as well...
Oh yeah, and how they forgot about a market called north america (the US, Canada and Mexico...)
Oh they have let me down, many times...at least geographically dude.. |
Sadly enough I have to agree with you. It seems most artists loose their "creative juices" after a couple of albums. I honestly think that the band lost there album writing abilities once Toby left. He was THE source material for all the hits JMQ produced.
I'm glad to see that were still getting albums and that tours are still being planned. I feel very sad to say that I think JMQ's golden years are well past. Hopefully we'll get some nice tracks on RDLS (not too happy about the name...) anyways... |
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mörö
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 05:05 |
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what's the deal with most of you here...? calm down and get a grip or sth. i think the track is quite good, vocally. the santana-like guitar strings maybe are a bit too much though but jay's voice is still a classic. i don't know if it's suitable to be the first single but since they've been away for 5+ years it sounds really refreshing... or maybe i'm just too big of a fan and can't see the "shitness" of it. dunno.
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samiam688
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Location: San Diego, california
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 05:18 |
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haven't been here forever. anyway...
I'm sorry but i love this song despite what others got to say about it being bad. I'm loving jays voice and singing style in blue skies. sure its not what I'm used to hearing from jamiroquai but i like that jay always wants to change it up and not let people pigeon hole him into a certain area of music.
I interpret this song as jay saying its time for him to go in a different direction and do the music that he wants to do and not the stuff everyone expects him to do. sure it can be funky too but hes tired of people wanting something he doesn't feel in his soul and how he almost quit but he didn't and hes back and for him the time is right for him to go into those blue skies, those places where he wants to go musically because its what he feels and he feels that there's unlimited creativity in those directions but that's just my interpretation
anyway here's my transcription of the lyrics
i'm pretty sure i got it mostly right
BLUE SKIES
So these are the figurines
Acting out all the scenes before my eyes
I thought I knew them all by name
But they started looking much the same
And it’s no surprise ….
That I don’t wanna listen too much
How can I give up on all the days I know I’ve won?
There’s nothing but rainbows
I’ll be leaving the shadows ….
Behind me
Thought I might be dropping out
But now I’m gonna work it out
I’m gonna work with me
I’m running like an appaloosa
Then I’m rolling like a rusty ship on a stormy sea (can’t make out backing vocals)
You know that people are saying ….
Strange things
Talk to the hand cause I know
Your favorite face is gone
I don’t wanna listen …. (Don’t wanna listen)
Too much
I’m not gonna give up on all the days
I know I’ve won
There’s nothing but blue skies (nothing but blue skies)
There’s nothing but blue…skies
Nothings gonna stop me now
I am skimming like a skipping stone on a silver lake
I take it when the chips are down
But to play the perfect happy clown
You got to make a mistake (got to, got make mistakes)
And people are saying …. (people are saying)
Strange things
And I don’t wanna listen…. (I don’t wanna listen)
Too much yeah
Nothing but blue skies
Blue skies
How can I tell you
I know this won’t be the last song
I don’t wanna listen …. (don’t wanna listen)
Too much
Not gonna give up on all the things that I know I’ve won
That’s where I’m going
Cause there’s nothing ….
Nothing but blue sky
That’s where im going
Nothing but ….
Rainbows falling down on me
Oooh hey, heeey ahhh
They’ll be nothing but blue sky
Can’t you see?
That’s where I’m going (blue skies)
Got to believe me
That’s where I’m going (blue skies)
That’s where I’m going (blue skies)
That’s where I’m going
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funk4
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 06:00 |
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I don't understand why the change has to be so dramatically. Who cares if some critics from the press think the band always make the same "happy funky songs". We all know better then that, and the band knows that too. Just look at all the screaming and dancing fans this summer at the live shows . Jamiroquai-music was about good vibes and that soulful feeling no other band could produce. But this song hasn't got it, its sounds very sad. I wonder, do they actually have an idea of the expectations of the fans? This song does not represent the band I saw playing this summer. |
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CosmicMouse
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 06:28 |
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First I have to say: THANKS everyone for expressing your opinions and feelings. I love to read so many various voices from fans and it is an interesting read. Welcome back to all who haven't been here for a while!! 
May I throw in a few thoughts myself after listening a few more times and reading all your feelings...
To sum it up: The new songs we have been listening so far from the new album are dividing the fans into two main groups:
-those who like/love it and appreaciate the work of the boys 
- and those who are dissapointed 
I think this is absolutely natural, because it is impossible to please everyone at the same time, while being true to yourself.
But what a lot of us don't see is, that this song is just one little piece of the whole puzzle. Only one piece.
You don't have to be overexcited about this one piece, but you also don't need to think that whole picture will be crap if you don't like it that much.
I am absolutely optimistic that the new era of Jamiroquai will be a good one, and will satisfy lots of us. You have to see the whole package, not only one or two songs, not only the album... for me it is the whole Jamiroquai experience that counts.
We will have a complete album with various songs.
We will have a tour.
We will have Jamily meetings.
Jay said in a recent interview: Don't panic, you'll like it.
I trust in that.
Because I liked all jamiroquai albums so far, I was not dissapointed.
I agree.. if I only had Dynamite as the only album, I would miss something. But I do have all the albums I can listen to, I have the live recordings, I have my own live experiences, I have the Jamily meetings, I have from time to time little band contact which makes me feel closer to the band, I have this forum with all you lovely people. For me it is the whole package that counts, and the new album will add to all this perfectly, I am sure.
What keeps me optimistic is for example, that Jay and the boys are proud of what they have created there. That's great to know and I absolutely appreciate their work. We know that they have worked hard for it.
They have tried different styles - hey, why not? I know they can do jazzy and funky tunes, I am curious how they manage to combine their unique style with other genres like blues... will be interesting for sure, even if I am not a blues fan.
We have recently had and surely will have horns at the coming live gigs, so there will also be one or two tracks with horns on the album for sure then. I don't think they will hire those musicians for live gigs only for old songs. So, we will have horns!!! I am happy about that!!!
Some comments about the album launch party yesterday confirm this - smokey mirrors (?) sounds jazzy for example, they said. That's really promising, don't you think???
So, whatever this new album will be like, I am sure I will like it. I will like it because I feel really close to this band, they are like friends, I know they work hard for it and I absolutley appreciate that! Even though some of the songs might not hit my taste 100%. I am fine with 90% and if there is a song that only does 65% for me, it is alright for me, because, as I said.. it is only a piece of the whole. And the whole package of Jamiroquai-experience (including gigs and all) will be great in the end. I know that! 
On a sidenote: Some mentioned that Jay is free now from Sony and therefore he should be able to do what he wants.... well... I am not so sure about it. They are having another big label. That it good, because so they have the infastructure they need to make big tours and all. That is good for us fans in the whole world!! BUT.. consider, that record companies are all nearly the same... you can bet that they still have limitations and control. Maybe different to Sony, but I doubt that they have all the decisions in their own hands.
Still, I think that the choice of songs on the album is mainly under Jay's control - I remember Sola saying this in our Jamirotalk interview once.
Well, this all is just the beginning of the new era with Mercury. We cannot really judge from now, if it will be better or not. And it is a bit sad that some fans are now giving up the band (statements like: I won't buy the new album.. and "jamiroquai are dead"...I mean, come on!!!) ...
I would suggest: Wait for the album, try to catch a gig and experience them live, and don't give up hope. 
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Notjustbonez
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 06:35 |
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Can I post something along the lines of "PLEASE SHOOT ME!" on this forum?
This is not how one does marketing on an album... Not at all...
Take a look at the previous albums. The singles are the best songs (mainly) off of the album. This is not a song you promote, this is a song you hide with the other skeletons in your closet. I'll be honest, I hate King For A Day. It's definitely not the best track on that album and that is why it was not the first song you hear from the album (legally). What really makes me wonder is why not release a studio version of RDLS first... give us a taste of what a studio can do with the song and possibly change a few minds.
And from the three songs we have heard, does anybody else feel that this album is gonna be all over the place. Some dance music, some of this water-downed alcoholism inducing garbage and whatever you consider RDLS to be (can't seem to place a genre on it). There seems to be no direction. Due to what we've heard, I think the band needed Sony for direction, even though Sony had their hands all over the music. Sony knew who they wanted to market to and how they were gonna do it.
(The change from a natural, acid jazz sound to more of an electronic urban sound)
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peggy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 07:33 |
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| CosmicMouse wrote: |
We have recently had and surely will have horns at the coming live gigs, so there will also be one or two tracks with horns on the album for sure then. I don't think they will hire those musicians for live gigs only for old songs. So, we will have horns!!! I am happy about that!!!
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I'm with you on that !
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Winterkat
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 08:24 |
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| CosmicMouse wrote: |
To sum it up: The new songs we have been listening so far from the new album are dividing the fans into two main groups:
-those who like/love it and appreaciate the work of the boys
- and those who are dissapointed |
In my opinion there is also a strong 3d group that is flabbergasted by the promotional strategy For me this actually has effect on how I perceive the new songs. When you care deeply for someone/something you want to protect them from harm so when you see something that might hurt them, you get fixated on it and lose sight of other things. Well that is how I am feeling at the moment.
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But what a lot of us don't see is, that this song is just one little piece of the whole puzzle. Only one piece.
You don't have to be overexcited about this one piece, but you also don't need to think that whole picture will be crap if you don't like it that much. |
I think this is a problematic point to me. I am trying to see that whole picture and I cannot grasp it. I hate this and it worries me 
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I am absolutely optimistic that the new era of Jamiroquai will be a good one, and will satisfy lots of us. You have to see the whole package, not only one or two songs, not only the album... for me it is the whole Jamiroquai experience that counts.
We will have a complete album with various songs.
We will have a tour.
We will have Jamily meetings. |
The quality gigs they gave this summer should indeed keep everyone's spirits up. They are obviously far from dead. And I can't wait to hear the new songs live because I am sure they will rock it. I am also very much looking forward to Jamily meetings so I am still very optimistic
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| Some comments about the album launch party yesterday confirm this - smokey mirrors (?) sounds jazzy for example, they said. That's really promising, don't you think??? |
Well Blue Skies also sounded very promising, very COTE like and to me it really isn't so I will not let an external opinion get my internal hopes up anymore. But again I am still optimistic and can't wait to hear more stuff!
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| On a sidenote: Some mentioned that Jay is free now from Sony and therefore he should be able to do what he wants.... well... I am not so sure about it. They are having another big label. That it good, because so they have the infastructure they need to make big tours and all. That is good for us fans in the whole world!! BUT.. consider, that record companies are all nearly the same... you can bet that they still have limitations and control. Maybe different to Sony, but I doubt that they have all the decisions in their own hands. |
See, this is something that has been going through my head so much lately. I doubt they have so much more freedom now. Do they have any amount of records obligation again? I would love to have a thorough look at their contract but I guess I am just extra worried about this because of my background.
I agree that the record companies are all nearly the same but I am sure that someone like Jay has enough weight to be able to get a contract that perfectly fits him. But for that he needs substantial and qualitative legal and business advise. I really hope he got that. But again I have to say that the whole promotion is worrying me sick. |
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FunkyDonkey
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:57 |
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I am totally speechless, really, don't know what to say...
I was in my car yesterday after work, stuck in the middle of the traffic jam and started to stream from youtube on mobile the new track.
I was already aware about some of the comments on here so I was prepared for this.
My expectations for the first single were of an instant classic but I found myself listening to a non-jmq track and I don't think it will even hit the charts...bah...again, I'll wait the album release 
I agree with almost everything Meike wrote down but I'm not actually sure about the divided world of jmq fans (somebody said James Blunt!), I see myself more in the middle at the moment. No doubt the pros were outlined very well:
| CosmicMouse wrote: |
We will have a complete album with various songs.
We will have a tour (with horns)
We will have Jamily meetings. |
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Tiffinypie
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:58 |
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Notjustbonez
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| - Some dance music, some of this water-downed alcoholism inducing garbage and whatever you consider RDLS to be (can't seem to place a genre on it). There seems to be no direction. |
I'm starting to think that's what Jay is going for,not to categorize them in any genre. Music that is carefree and fun.
..i think 
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