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HoneyBee
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I think bonus tracks, at the end of an album, is their release.
Songs that have an individual release (Smile) don't seem to make it officially on an album, w/the exception of a special release. Although I'd love Smile on the 8th album!
I'm pretty sure Angeline won't be a track on album 8. And the ones that didn't make it to RDLS, I'd bet, if any, maybe 1 makes it on album 8. The majority of albums seem to be original music.
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iranterres
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 15:34 |
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I just hope some solid stuff coming from them.
Seriously if they did stuff like that jingle on the BBC show or stuff like they did on RDLS I wish they don't even bother to release anything as such.
I just wish they could something with substance this time, something meaningful and with value and not this slapstick pop from the last albums.
We've had bad mixing, poor audio recording quality, poor track editing, poor single selections for release etc.
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Javis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 18:47 |
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| iranterres wrote: |
Seriously if they did stuff like that jingle on the BBC show or stuff like they did on RDLS I wish they don't even bother to release anything as such. |
men that's so negative!
RDLS is still much better than lot of albums released around the same years, and I'll always be thankful for having another Jamiroquai album. |
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Dye
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Yeah, I wouldn't call any of the albums bad or even mediocre. They're good albums, specially compared with the crap music of today.
That being said (and I think we say this a lot every year there's an album coming up) I really wish they would turn to more jazzy instrumentals, long songs, just them playing and creating complex structures without worrying about getting 4 minute radio-friendly tracks. |
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Javis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 19:02 |
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| Dye wrote: |
That being said (and I think we say this a lot every year there's an album coming up) I really wish they would turn to more jazzy instrumentals, long songs, just them playing and creating complex structures without worrying about getting 4 minute radio-friendly tracks. |
Agree. But the reality is that EOPE and TROSC didn't do much to bring Jamiroquai to play in Argentina, so I guess I hope a successful album rather another EOPE, the thing is, Jamiroquai has always been trying sightly different stuff on each album and I like it this way |
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Dye
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I think they're in a position right now where they don't need to be a worldwide phenomenon again. They have their reputation, if they play live, people will go. So they might aswell experiment a little bit. That's what I'm hoping for. |
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mahoney
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 07:23 |
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i am very sure they will be looking into new sounds. There must be adaptability too these days. as i am sure we all agree on the band having to produce their music freely, i am very sure they will looking to attract new fans and music enthusiasts.
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funkyleah
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 21:18 |
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Am I the only one who thought RDLS was actually a really lovely album?
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funkyleah
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 21:20 |
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| Javis wrote: |
| iranterres wrote: |
Seriously if they did stuff like that jingle on the BBC show or stuff like they did on RDLS I wish they don't even bother to release anything as such. |
men that's so negative!
RDLS is still much better than lot of albums released around the same years, and I'll always be thankful for having another Jamiroquai album. |
sorry to dp, i meant to quote this post;
i agree with you javis! yeah, i do prefer albums like TROTSC and EOPE over RDLS, but I still think RDLS is a really nice album. in fact i love all of them... i'm a lucky jamiro-fan who likes all jamiroquai styles!
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iranterres
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What bothers me is the formula, they have been trying the same since AFO.
Besides that, well... Jay is older, the Band grew older but I fail to see their music to mature accordlingly. Songs like Angeline and White Knucle Ride (wtf....) sounds awkward to me, but we have seen stuff like that in the past albums as well.
Also saying RDLS was a good album compared to what is available today might be naive, I have been listening to a lot of good and refreshing stuff lately, when I was thinking the very same about how nice RDLS was, listening to stuff like Esperanza Spalding felt like a slap across my face. It was New, it was refreshing, it was innovative, and she is not even close to mainstream or a worldwide chart topper.
You guys may think I'm being negative or even too harsh, but I want it to be as good as you do, but I'm just on the ground, and careful enough to not create high expectations or turning too optmistic.
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Javis
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 18:50 |
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| iranterres wrote: |
| What bothers me is the formula, they have been trying the same since AFO. |
Well, like it or not, AFO and the following albums are part of what Jamiroquai is.
it might not be your cup of tea, but that doesn't mean they are bad albums, and they are certainly among the favorites of many fans.
So, if you don't like what Jamiroquai have been doing the past 16 years, you probably need to to question yourself if you really like Jamiroquai. |
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HoneyBee
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 20:18 |
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| Dye wrote: |
Yeah, I wouldn't call any of the albums bad or even mediocre. They're good albums, specially compared with the crap music of today.
That being said (and I think we say this a lot every year there's an album coming up) I really wish they would turn to more jazzy instrumentals, long songs, just them playing and creating complex structures without worrying about getting 4 minute radio-friendly tracks. |
I agree, BRASS!!
what makes us fans is that we like the majority of their music. There is no 'method'. And Iranterres we are older as well. What makes us fans is if we look forward to what is next.
I don't want another EOPE, TROSC, or AFO, I want something new. And I want it now. |
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Golomeen
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 22:48 |
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When AFO was released I guessed that disco is too bad for such a great group
And since that till Jay visited Moscow in 2011 I kept thinking AFO is shitty disco easy dancing stuff. And what then? Then it became my favourite album with MV and DILWUTD as jewels. Never close your mind to something new from those you already prefer. |
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iranterres
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| Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 23:16 |
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| Javis wrote: |
So, if you don't like what Jamiroquai have been doing the past 16 years, you probably need to to question yourself if you really like Jamiroquai. |
It's not about what is done, but how it is done.
Never said all the last albums were bad but not really my cup of tea, you have a point.
Also, some albums being fan favourites does not mean they're good, that's a matter of taste. But fans need to stop thinking everything they release is good, they can give some bad shots along the road and I would be blindly stupid to think like that...
Most people make a confusion between evolution and improvement.
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Javis
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| iranterres wrote: |
But fans need to stop thinking everything they release is good, they can give some bad shots along the road and I would be blindly stupid to think like that...
Most people make a confusion between evolution and improvement. |
Totally agree with you here.
The thing is, I got to know Jamiroquai when Dynamite was released, and, in despite of what most of the fans here think of it, that was the album which hooked me up. With time I also enjoyed listening to the first albums more and more, to the point that I'm of the opinion they are better than the later ones too.
Still, I like to play Dynamite when I'm in the mood, because it sounds so different that they are not even the same genre.
I'll be thankful for having a new Jamiroquai album. It might be a bad album, but so far, I never felt they let me down with their music, I'm the kid of person who enjoy both kind of music.
For instance, you named Angeline as a bad song, and I love it. I enjoy every little detail of it. I even got to contact Rob to ask him what instrument was a sound in the background of the song.
There's no point in discussing if an album is good or bad really. As you said, it's a matter of taste.
But all see your comments in the past few years were always negative, I just wanted to bring that to your attention. |
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