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Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 01:02

Thanks, Didgin. That's very helpful. Back to the other discussion (about getting out of the SONY contract), would releasing three live albums fufill the requirement?

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 04:44

Anyone out there? No one's responded in five days!

sanida

Joined: 12 Nov 2002
Posts: 28
Location: Perth, Australia

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 08:21

i was just gonna say, whats happened to this forum!? you've gone so quiet i guess its because of christmas and all...but still! we have to stay dedicated personally, i think sony is not doing jamiroquai any favours. if they did more promoting in the US, i'm sure the band would do just fine. i guess the record companies don't know what its like to be in the artist's shoes. i don't think JK is really interested in the politics of the whole recording business, he just wants to make music... its so sad that they are tied to a contract like this. lets just hope it doesn't effect their music...i really hope they go back to their original sound. keep groovin' all, hope you had a nice christmas and have a great 2003 _________________ I'm still groovin'...and if I like it, I do it!

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 06:23

It is very unfortunate about the contract. I think the music they produce will continue to be good. The question is, will SONY let it get put onto an album? It sounded like last go-round some of the lower-caliber music got put onto the album in place of some much better stuff. We'll just have to see. Hey, isn't Jay's birthday coming up? I think it's TOMMOROW (today, by the time anyone reads this) but I may be wrong. What is being done to celebrate? Cheers!

JamiroFan2000
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Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 2881
Location: The Jamiroquaized States Of America

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 18:47

JK's Birthday... Hello, :bm_b: cough (Wipes nose)...Yep, Freddie, it's been a slow latter part of December for JamiroTalk.net, due to Christmas and the upcoming New Years, many users are a taking a break from the net, yours truly has too, mostly due to illness ! Yeah, JK's B-day is today or tomorrow, I expect there will be a small gathering of J's bandmates and friends at the mansion the night of the birthday. I imagine some old band members might make surprise visits, maybe Toby, DJ Dezire, Simon and Stu, then they would all toast to jay with their bottles of Heineken (please note, I don't their individual tastes in suddy beer, so I'm just guessing). Then at the height of the night, some friends roll out a immense chef styled cake shaped like the AFO blade hat, J's cheeks are rosy with embarrasement as his mates belt out "Happy birthday to you", then J blows out the candles and has a giant on his face. That's how I imagine the celebrations will go, but who knows, maybe they all might just "go down the pub"! Thanks for listening and have a great New Year! Peace! Sincerely, A Cold-ridden JamiroFan2000 -------------------------------------------------------------- JAMIROFAN'S NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION -------------------------------------------------------------- To be the best JamiroFan I can be for 2003!!!! --------------------------------------------------------------

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 20:08

Sorry about the cold, Jamirofan. I hope you feel better. But your sickness doesn't forgive your oversight! In describing the party, you forgot the cheeba You think Stu would show up? How is their relationship these days? Cheers. Last edited by Freddie Hg on Sun Jan 05, 2003 06:03; edited 1 time in total

smellbob

Joined: 25 Feb 2002
Posts: 388
Location: Los Angeles, Ca

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2003 02:15

I think jay probably went to a strip club and did a reenactment of the beginning of the YGMS music video! _________________

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2003 05:40

smellbob, something tells me you're OBSESSED with YGMS. What are your thoughts of the music prior to Synkronized?

sunrayvibe

Joined: 19 Feb 2002
Posts: 340
Location: Berlin

Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2003 14:35

Hi pals, you're right, it's been quite slow in here. But YOU were here to cheer up, right? Going back to that SONY issue, I feel like playing the devil's advocate. The answer of McKenzie that you quoted is so valuable. It shows, that an artist with a record deal is not 100% free of recording what he wants. Still, if JK did not want to write "sugary" parts, I do not see how SONY would force him to do so. I can imagine that JK plays with the balance between the music he wants to write and the one SONY would like him to. Artists who do not want to experience this pressure and loss of freedom, cannot benefit from the huge assets of such a record company: promotion, distribution, ... ♪"You can't always get what you want..."♪ Remember that JK did not spit on the money that SONY gave him 10 years ago, while he just started his career. As far as I know, JK did not hesitate too long before dropping his former label "Acid Jazz Record": Why? Because you do not say "NO" to a deal for 8 albums with one of the biggest record companies when you are 23 years old, just because you might loose some of your freedom as an artist. A record company like SONY does provide the means of distributing and promoting his creations on the market. And that's good for us, the fans! Just take the DVD: which company is able to organize and distribute such a brilliant product? Only a powerful one. If JK intended to write only the music he feels like, without taking care about the directions wanted by his record company, he would have lost already his contract with SONY and we would be begging for an album to be released on a small label. If JK starts spitting in the soup and leaves SONY, he risks to be stamped as "difficult person" and he might not get as good as a deal in another record company. Anyway, a breach of contract would cost him too much. I cannot imagine Mr Kay renouncing to his materialistic inclinations just for the sake of such a vague notion as "pure music". I have the feeling that JK is intelligent enough not to do only what he likes. I remember an interview in 1999 where he was saying that "the band can not start playing crazy electro improvisations that nobody would understand, just because they feel like it. The audience would not appreciate". Allright, AFO sounds more "mainstream" than the other albums. Still, JK seems to be satisfied with the results of this new musical adventure. It also seems that AFO brought a new kind of fans to Jamiroquai. Also, there is such a difference between the songs released on the album AFO and some versions that you can hear in concert. Jairoquai remains a LIVE band first. The CD AFO is only a sell support. The "real" music of Jamiroquai developpes itself throughout the concerts. Praise the net and the bootlegs: they bring the evidence that an album is only a small part, like a snapshot, of the talent of a band. I feel confident for the next album. Until now, JK prooved himself very clever in choosing his musicians and Jamiroquai, as a band, seem most capable of trying a new direction and offering us a brilliant #6. (With lot's of brass, trumpets, saxo, flute, pllleeeeeaaaaaaassseeee) Yes, the States seem to be a problem. But as far as I understood, there is a kind of musical protectionism within the radio stations:Music from Europe is hardly played in the States. So maybe SONY cannot do very much about it. Maybe it is more like a cultural issue. _________________ ?Now I've got that sunshine in my life?

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 04:07

I think you couldn't be more right. SONY might be stiffling, but they're powerful and they can promote (even if they don't do much in the states). What baffles me is that Jamiroquai DID break into the US charts in 1997, only to disappear by 2001. The music scene WOULD allow the band, I believe, if SONY did more to promote them. The live recordings are great (my new favorites are the live recordings of HIGH TIMES at Montreux and SPACE COWBOY at Paradiso, Amsterdam 1994; both are available at funkin.com). True, the albums are a just a "snapshot" of the band's talent, but it's all that most of the world (not us avid fans) ever gets to hear. There is currently a huge "jam band" following in the US (like Phish) and if there were more live-style jamming on the albums I think Jamiroquai would gain a lot of American fans. We'll wait and see what Jay has for us next. I can deal with the sugary songs, because there have been a few before AFO, but some of the songs from #5 I thought were downright poor. I refer to STOP DON'T PANIC and TWENTY ZERO ONE, which seem to be very low quality musically. That's just my opinion though. Thanks, sunrayvibe, for such a well-conceived and thoroughly-explained response! Cheers.

Butterfly in June

Joined: 21 May 2002
Posts: 972
Location: Germany

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2003 07:38

Thank you sunrayvibe and Freddie for your very detailed postings. I agree with sunray and it looks like Jay is in a little "midlife crisis". On one hand he hates the way Sony restricts the bands musical development and on the other hand he wouln't do without the Sony-money (without it he couldn't take part in the millionaires race in April)

flor

Joined: 04 Jan 2003
Posts: 2

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2003 20:39

Re: At least 8 albums? yes!! its true!!! what you saw in that page its real. they signed a contract whit SONY to realese 8 albums!!!! so, we have jam for a lot of time yet!!!! byeee flor I was on the BBC website a few days ago and found some astonishing news. I don’t know when it was last updated, but according to the BBC, Jamiroquai signed an eight-album contract with SONY after the release of WHEN YOU GONNA LEARN? back in 1993. Is this contract still in effect, and if not, when did it change? This was very encouraging news for me here in the States. If there are three albums to come we may yet see them again in the US. I hope it’s true. Cheers.[/quote]

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 04:18

Welcome to the discussion, flor. We know there will be 8 albums, but what will the music be like? Will the music continue to suffer (in that it's "sugary") or will Jay and the boys go back to their Acid Jazz roots, giving us some more brass, strings and maybe even digeridoo? Will DJ D-Zire join the team again, or Wallis, or Toby? All this remains to be seen. We're all speculating about it. What do you think?

JamiroFan2000
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Joined: 21 Mar 2002
Posts: 2881
Location: The Jamiroquaized States Of America

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 19:47

Great posts guys... Hello, :bm_r: Man, great posts guys (Sunray & Freddie)..those were the TWO best posts I have ever read! (Walks up to Sunrayvibe & Freddie, shakes their hands and gives them their "Best Posts on JamiroTalk.net" awards and poses with them for camera!...Snap Snap). For us American fans, with the Sony leash so tight on Jamiroquai's neck, all we can do is wait, which is tiring, but understandable, after reading those two great posts! I don't mean oogle about, them, but darn, those posts should be printed, framed and put in the "JamiroTalk.net Hall of Fame" next to my collection of JamiroTalk.net humour! Great read guys and thanks for listening! Take care and I gotta go and read those posts again...gosh they are great:)! Peace! Standing in udder awe of Freddie & Sunrayvibe , JamiroFan2000 AWARDED TO SUNRAYVIBE AND FREDDIE HG!! ------------------------------------------------------------ JAMIROFAN'S POST-AWARD THOUGHT ------------------------------------------------------------ Enjoy your awards guys, but sorry no goodie bags! ------------------------------------------------------------

Freddie Hg

Joined: 17 Nov 2002
Posts: 510
Location: New York City

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2003 22:36

Hahahaha, I'm glad you thought they were good posts. Thank you.

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