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Cesar

Joined: 22 Aug 2002
Posts: 181
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 20:25

I can see I'm alone here but I hated the setlist... I thought this was the ''Dynamite'' tour, not the ''We're stuck in the early 90's'' one... Does anyone really need to listen to ''revolution 1993'' again? Isn't the tour supposed to promote the new cd? I for one want to hear as much of the new material live as possible. "Dynamite" has 12 songs but J has only included four on the setlist... Why is that? Since FJLIS and SDISJ (the first single and the rumoured second one) are there alongside BDC and Dynamite, can we assume these last two will be singles too? Very disappointing! I was really looking forward to hearing 'Starchild', '(Don't)Give Hate a Chance', 'Electric Mistress' or even 'Tallulah' live.

monisum

Joined: 30 Jun 2004
Posts: 1327
Location: Germany

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 20:42

I don't think that four new songs out of twelve are so few. And they will surely play not every concert the same setlist. I think they will experiment with the new material- An they are a band with now 6 albums. Audience will expect to play some of the great old tunes, and these tunes are the ones, that will give the spirit into audience and make people feel good, cause they are familiar with it. And even a known song can be new interpreted, and Jamiroquai as a live band is surely the master of new versions. There are so many great songs in different versions... I would judge not so early from the first setlist. Let the concerts develop. They have to be careful with the new material. The album is just out. Hard fans will surely knew the new songs and may be every lyric, but others will have to be pushed forward by older tunes...tunes timeless and still great. _________________

FunkyDonkey
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Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 1680
Location: Milan, Italy

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 20:48

Cesar wrote:

I was really looking forward to hearing 'Tallulah' live.

No horns...no talullah Sad

..but... i agree...this setlist is GREAT!!!

Music of the Mind aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

I can't wait for the 14th of july to begin!
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I once had a 10 years of Travelling Without Moving celebrations banner here... Wink

Saffy7
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 459
Location: Hereford, UK

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 21:02

Hey! Well, on the whole, I'm pleasantly surprised with the setlist. I say "on the whole" because, although it's great to see some of the earlier tracks there, I'm disappointed to not see Starchild and Talullah They're my favourite tracks on the new album and I would love to see them performed live. Oh well, maybe one day! Claire.x. _________________ wouldn't you like, wouldn't you like, wouldn't you like...to shoot the moon tonight?

jgrizz

Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Posts: 1049
Location: Claremont/Southern California/USA

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 21:05

Cesar wrote:

Does anyone really need to listen to ''revolution 1993'' again?

Well just take a listen to Sunderland show....the Rev1993 was sick!!!

new interpretations are always welcome.

They also played starchild on the UK video and I haven't even heard Tallulah yet so I can't comment on that.

But I would give them a chance you wouldn't want them to play all of the Dynamite album before rehearsing the tracks well, they might not sound good. Getting a group seasoned on the material to perform is rough.It takes time.

personally I wish they would drop Deeper Underground I'm sick of it.

just my opinion!

Cesar

Joined: 22 Aug 2002
Posts: 181
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 21:08

monisum wrote:

I would judge not so early from the first setlist. Let the concerts develop. They have to be careful with the new material. The album is just out. Hard fans will surely knew the new songs and may be every lyric, but others will have to be pushed forward by older tunes...tunes timeless and still great. Wink

I know it's hard to play new material to non-fans, so the best move is always to balance the number of known tracks and new songs. I know Jamiroquai can recreate old songs live and make them sound even better but, let's face it, any tour has a purpose: promote the artist's latest release. This 'Dynamite' tour sounds more like a 'best of' package. If you take a look at the order of the songs, the first song from 'Dynamite' (FJLIS) is the ninth track to be played in the show... Couldn't they have played two or three old songs, then one or two new ones, then a couple of classics etc? I know the setlist can change but then it doesn't change THAT dramatically. The basis of the concert is there.

When I went to see them live here in 99, I was determined NOT to buy 'Synkronized' because I hadn't really liked 'Canned Heat' and had heard the album was weak. After listening to the new songs live, I thought they sounded robust and was desperate to get the album. What made me change my mind was listening to the new songs performed live, not the ancient hits. Smile

Let's see what happens. I love 'Mr. Moon' by the way. But 'revolution 1993'!? Does anyone really need that? Wink

Cesar

Joined: 22 Aug 2002
Posts: 181
Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 21:11

jgrizz wrote:

But I would give them a chance you wouldn't want them to play all of the Dynamite album before rehearsing the tracks well, they might not sound good. Getting a group seasoned on the material to perform is rough.It takes time.

I respect your opinion but they had to rehearse all the songs - especially the older ones. Or do you think Jay Kay and the guys knew how to play 'revolution 1993', 'emergency on planet earth', 'to young to die' or 'mister moon' etc by heart? Of course not. They had to make the effort. The show has 17 songs but only 4 are from the new album. Personally I find that a very low number but it's just my opinion.

LLCoolJR
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Joined: 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 1431
Location: The Netherlands

Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 22:33

I'm sure this is the playlist they will do during their summer tour, maybe with some little changes here and there. Jay said they won't do many new tunes, so I think they'll have a different playlist when they're touring in the UK and the rest of Europe in September and October with more tracks of the new album.

jamirokaki
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Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 3472
Location: basque country

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 09:57

i have to say that i'm one of those who needs revolution, and more old great tunes, with new sound. concerts are to promote new material that's true, but the new album is there anyway, and it really don't needs more publicity that what it haves, also you must notice is the first time they play there so is comprehensible to have a setlist like that one, i'm pretty sure that the setlist will change quite a lot in this tour, if it has 17 songs in this one i'm sure that they could insert another 5 at least, and drop some others, doing different conbinations in each concert. i'm sure that they will play more tunes from the new album, altough talullah may not be one of those as it's not usually on jami to play that kind of such slow tunes (don't mind the good they are) (everyday played once, falling never, spend a lifetime never...) also it's normal to think that the first concerts will have more tunes that the rest ones, and the most probable thing is that the drop old tunes and keep the news, so 4 from a 16,15,14,13,12 or even 11 tracks is to put up the average of new tunes. p.s i also quit sick of deeper underground as encore, it's true that it's a good song to finish a concert, as alright is, but, i think is time to drop it and play another one (new or old) p.s2 remember the dynamite setlist thread? how hard was too choose the songs? same happens to the band _________________ *STONED AGAIN*

Zsoma

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 1369
Location: Hungary

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:51

jamirokaki wrote:

i have to say that i'm one of those who needs revolution, and more old great tunes, with new sound. concerts are to promote new material that's true, but the new album is there anyway, and it really don't needs more publicity that what it haves, also you must notice is the first time they play there so is comprehensible to have a setlist like that one, i'm pretty sure that the setlist will change quite a lot in this tour, if it has 17 songs in this one i'm sure that they could insert another 5 at least, and drop some others, doing different conbinations in each concert. i'm sure that they will play more tunes from the new album, altough talullah may not be one of those as it's not usually on jami to play that kind of such slow tunes (don't mind the good they are) (everyday played once, falling never, spend a lifetime never...)
also it's normal to think that the first concerts will have more tunes that the rest ones, and the most probable thing is that the drop old tunes and keep the news, so 4 from a 16,15,14,13,12 or even 11 tracks is to put up the average of new tunes.

p.s i also quit sick of deeper underground as encore, it's true that it's a good song to finish a concert, as alright is, but, i think is time to drop it and play another one (new or old)

p.s2 remember the dynamite setlist thread? how hard was too choose the songs? same happens to the band Wink

Absolutely agree... This was only the first gig of the tour, the album was launched the same day, so if they played 7-8 tracks from Dynamite (unknown for most peolpe) the crowd would have enjoyed themselves as much as they did...

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Zsoma

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 1369
Location: Hungary

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 13:11

Someone asked in another topic how Music Of The Mind sounded. Well, Derrick played the drums in bossa-nova style, but everything else was the same as in 1993-95. We did record the show with a simple mp3 recorder, but the bass was so strong that nothing else sounds really behind it, but we're trying to clear the record as much as we can... And other fans also made some videos, if I get them I'll share them...

jamirokaki
Expert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 3472
Location: basque country

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 13:25

but if it was only 2 or 3 minutes...wich part of music of the mind was? the slow or the fast one? were there the strings? (on sample) must be really great..... i hope you can take audible sound from the record...but iknow it's hard...hope theres any bootleg out there soon _________________ *STONED AGAIN*

MoonShooter

Joined: 03 Jun 2004
Posts: 443
Location: Scotland, UK

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 17:56

Haha, isn't it ironic how everyone asks for old songs to be played, and when they do get played we start asking for the new ones? _________________

jamirokaki
Expert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 3472
Location: basque country

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 20:00

jgrizz asked in another thread what was lightsaber thing, they where interludes between tracks with jay fooling around with a star wars lightsaber[/quote] _________________ *STONED AGAIN*

Zsoma

Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 1369
Location: Hungary

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 16:00

jamirokaki wrote:

but if it was only 2 or 3 minutes...wich part of music of the mind was? the slow or the fast one? were there the strings? (on sample) must be really great.....
i hope you can take audible sound from the record...but iknow it's hard...hope theres any bootleg out there soon

Faster part (as I remember), no strings...

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