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JamiroFan2000
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Michael Jackson + 50 Cent = MJ Takeover Mixtape!
 Hello,
 Looks like the embattled Michael Jackson is coming back to the music world in a smart way, with collaborating with Hip Hop's 50 Cent and DJ Whoo Kid for a new mixtape feat. new music from MJ, 50 and a host of Hip Hop's finest, here a cut N paste of the news :
NEW YORK (Billboard) - Embattled pop star Michael Jackson is eyeing a collaboration with rapper 50 Cent.
The first fruit of a potential pairing would likely appear on a mixtape spearheaded by DJ Whoo Kid, a member of 50 Cent's crew, who told Billboard.com he is heading to Bahrain in two weeks to take possession of tracks Jackson has been working on in his home studio.
50 Cent's spokesperson said the rapper has made no commitment to appear on the mixtape -- a DJ-produced compilation popular in the hip-hop world -- or on Jackson's next studio album, which will be released on his new Two Seas label.
Sources say the first single from that as-yet-untitled project, "Now That I Found Love," will be released November 21. The track is being produced by Jackson and longtime collaborator Bruce Swedien, who engineered the classic track "Thriller" and co-produced the album "Dangerous."
Two Seas Records is a joint venture between Jackson and Abdulla Hamad Al-Khalifa. U.K. record executive Guy Holmes has been tapped as CEO of the label and will also be tasked with managing Jackson's other business interests.
The embattled pop star, who signed with British manager Guy Holmes last week, is working on a new single featuring Fiddy and his G-Unit crew. The song will be released on DJ Whoo Kid's mixtape MJ Unit - The Takeover, which will also feature five unreleased Jackson songs and mash-ups of his classics with G-Unit tracks.
Jackson, who currently lives in Bahrain, is working on his first studio album since 2001's Invincible.
Pretty interesting innit? So leave your thoughts on this, do you think this is a good thing OR a waste of his time? Any new MJ is good for me! Thanks for listening and Peace!
Sincerely,
JamiroFan2000
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deesh
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| Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 21:38 |
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 this topic in jamirotalk scares me incredibly...considering the lovely responses to the 'black hip-hop/rap topic' from awhile ago........
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FunkEducation
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 03:17 |
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Michael Jackson’s comeback album to feature hip-hop stars
Asian News International
Washington, April 25, 2006
King of pop Michael Jackson’s first comeback song will be out within weeks and will feature hip-hop stars like 50 Cents and his G-Unit talent.
The song, Trial of Century, features 50 Cent, Lucy Diamonds and DJ Whoo Kid, whose mixtape ‘MJ Unit-The Takeover,’ will contain five unreleased Jackson songs, reports Ratethemusic.
Jackson is working on his first studio album since Invincible released in 2001 in Bahrain, where he now resides.
Two Seas Records is a joint venture between Jackson and Abdulla Hamad Al-Khalifa. UK record executive Guy Holmes has been appointed as the CEO of the label and will also be tasked with managing Jackson's other business interests. |
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1683006,0011.htm
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New Michael Jackson Song "Trial Of The Century"
Michael Jackson will hit the streets in the coming weeks with the new song "Trial of the Century," which features 50 Cent, Lucy Diamonds and DJ Whoo Kid. The track will be found on Whoo Kid's mixtape "MJ Unit -- The Takeover," which will also feature five unreleased Jackson songs and mashups of his prior hits with songs from the G-Unit camp, Billboard.com has learned.
Sources say "MJ Unit -- The Takeover" will also boast exclusive tracks from 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks, Mase, Young Buck, Mobb Deep, M.O.P. and Lucy Diamonds. Jay-Z has also been contacted to contribute to the project, which will be released via G-Unit/Interscope and Jackson's new Two Seas label.
"Trial of the Century" will be the first taste of new music from Jackson since his June 2005 acquittal on multiple child molestation charges. He has since moved his base of operations from California to Bahrain, where he has begun preproduction on his first new studio album since 2001's "Invincible."
Sources say the first single from the as-yet-untitled project, "Now That I Found Love," will be released Nov. 21 and will also feature Lucy Diamonds. The track is being produced by Jackson and longtime collaborator Bruce Swedien, who engineered the classic "Thriller" and co-produced the album "Dangerous."
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The singer is currently at work on an as-yet-untitled new album in Bahrain. The first single from new album, "Now That I Found Love," will reportedly be released November 21st.
Source: Rolling Stone |
http://rus.delfi.lv/news/entertainment/celebrietes/article.php?id=14264225&com=1
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mörö
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 05:37 |
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half buck is a lamer. big time.
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 07:29 |
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No... Just no... Just because a blonde bimbo from MTV likes 50 (Per)Cent and makes him popular, doesn't mean he has talent. 50 gives rap a very bad name. Rap is about bitching about the cruelty of the reality, not about stuff 50 talks about. Real rap has a feeling, just like MJ's music. Mixing Jackson with 50 is just... Really pointless [size=-5]and stupid...[/size]. Sure, MJ did have a buncha rap in his songs ("Jam feat. Heavy D"), but at least that rap wasn't about sex, money, drugs, prostitution, criminal et cetera.
I hate 50 and his 'Candy Shop'. If that's the best thing he can come up with, then I seriously think 50 should end himself and spare us. Also, why doesn't MJ do something with a talented singer of his own genre? I'm not bashing him for having a wrong decision considering the 'duette' with 50. I'm just saying that MJ would go better if he pairs up with Madonna, or any other non-MTV Pop star who actually has talent, just like him. |
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:05 |
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knjaz,
not that i'm a fan of radio "rap", but truthfully some people's reality that they are rapping about may well be 'sex, money, drugs, prostitution, criminal et cetera.' you don't know and neither do i, because we don't live with them. now, some may be faking the funk in what they rap about (which many do), who knows? but don't forget that rappers like rock stars and every other genre have imagination and can tell a story they never lived. again, i'm not a fan of radio "rap" either, but funny how people (speaking in general) don't make a huge deal of the 'sex, money, drugs or prostitution' lyrics in heavy metal or dance music... 
mj and madonna - ummmmmmmm...i like madonna actually, i've seen her in concert a few times. her talent is entertaining, not singing. so if her and mj were to do a song, i don't know how well it'd do. go on tour, they'd be great, but do a song...not too sure about that one. and madonna is a MTV pop star. she just happens to be one that has been around forever.
next, rap and hip-hop aren't the same thing...hip-hop is about the expression and acknowledgement (bringing it to the masses) of reality (insert grandmaster flash lyrics) through 4 different elements (DJ, MC - not rapping..there is a difference, BBOY/BGIRL, GRAF). RAP is just a term used to describe someone who rhymes in a quick style - whether is hip-hop style rap or NOT. it's not always negative (insert will smith and jay) either.
this all of course is my opinion, backed up very loosely by a few facts.
i'm not coming at your neck..just felt the need to comment because it's not often we have a discussion about hip-hop around here, so i appreciate the dialect sweetie 
with love, dd
and ps. i know alot of non-blonde bimbos that like 50 cent  his music is not really to be taken seriously, is it? well..i don't take it seriously it'll fade soon...
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 17:30 |
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| deesh wrote: |
...but funny how people (speaking in general) don't make a huge deal of the 'sex, money, drugs or prostitution' lyrics in heavy metal or dance music...
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It's common to see such lyrics in Metal... That genre always has vulgar lyrics, so it's kinda common for it. And about dance music, well I don't know. I'll just take a wild stab and say that it's made to make premature teenagers feel 'horny'.
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mj and madonna - ummmmmmmm...i like madonna actually, i've seen her in concert a few times. her talent is entertaining, not singing. so if her and mj were to do a song, i don't know how well it'd do. go on tour, they'd be great, but do a song...not too sure about that one. and madonna is a MTV pop star. she just happens to be one that has been around forever.
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When I talk about an MTV music star, I usually talk about the freaks with no talent who try to make music, but fail.
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next, rap and hip-hop aren't the same thing...hip-hop is about the expression and acknowledgement (bringing it to the masses) of reality (insert grandmaster flash lyrics) through 4 different elements (DJ, MC - not rapping..there is a difference, BBOY/BGIRL, GRAF). RAP is just a term used to describe someone who rhymes in a quick style - whether is hip-hop style rap or NOT. it's not always negative (insert will smith and jay) either.
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I can't keep up with that...
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and ps. i know alot of non-blonde bimbos that like 50 cent his music is not really to be taken seriously, is it? well..i don't take it seriously it'll fade soon... |
By 'blonde bimbo', I actually meant the premature host of an MTV show who dirigues and shapes our music tastes after her, which is not a very good one in my opinion. People usually say: 'OMFG OMG she sadi <Generic talentless singer> is cool! I'm <Same generic talentless musician>'s biggest fan!'
Meh... I'll just stop here 'cause I really don't want to offend anybody with my very 'sharp' opinions. |
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deesh
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 17:45 |
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hmm..people don't target metal because those lyrics are "common"...don't agree with that at all, but it's cool.
many people don't know the difference between rap and hip-hop, i was just trying to help explain it. not that much to keep up with sweetie..it's just education really.
those hosts on mtv are doing a job. they probably don't even like the music. so it isn't really her tastes, it's her employers business. mtv is a business. it's peoples fault for being sheeped in.
you don't have to stop..sharp opinions never offend me, because i got sharp opinions right back. ignorance does offend me though. it's all good..and just a conversation, which i really appreciate. most of the jamily stay away from debated conversations about certain things, which makes things boring.....so it's good to talk about this with you.
i see where you are going. i am just passionate about the representation of the hip-hop CULTURE!
i'll stop here too...love, dd
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 18:38 |
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There's vulgarity in the lyrics across the whole board of genre's. Just because some artists within a certain genre sing/rap about themes or subjects considered inappropriate/x-rated doesn't mean that's an accurate representation of all rock/pop/hip-hop etc music...
Even "ugly" lyrics which aren't on pleasant subjects can have beauty behind them: the beauty of the lyricist. Poets of the past are revered for the way they express themselves: appreciate some song lyrics today as modern poetry or literature. Just as with a great piece of literature there can be more to read between the lines than appears on the surface... |
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mr_moon
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 19:48 |
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Okay so i am going to give my 2 cents worth................
I am not going to get into whether or not rap, rock, dance or any other genres are necessarily always expressing the truth and events that have actually happened.
Mainly because i agree with Deesh on most of what she has said. Although i also think Knjaz and Yvie have made some equally valid points.
The main problem i have is with 50 cent. Okay, so if he wants to rhyme about nearly the same topics in everyone of his tracks....well thats fair enough its his choice i suppose.
The main issue with 50 for me is that he has no repect whatsoever for -
A - the genre in general. In my opinion he has ridiculed and taken advantage of the genre. I see him as a thief in terms of he is basically just trying to get (or make ) what he can out of the game and make very little effort to contribute anything worth while to the genre.
B - the artists at the top of their game within the genre. Obviously i know WHY he has a pop at what seems to be everyone within the game, of course its for the popularity. But i think he has taken this much too far many time. I mean from what i know he has had a go at Nas, Jay-z and more recently he has apparently had a go about Kanye???!!! I mean what is this guy thinking? The three guys i have mentioned, in my opinion, are people who have done so much for the genre in general and as for talent well i do not need me to tell you how good they are.
So for me the guy is a joke and like Deesh wrote i dont think this kinda....*ahem* artist is really supposed to be taken that seriously which now make me think wtf have i just wrote all that for then 
Anyway he will pass and the next joke will come, however i just think he has taken the genre about two steps back in regards to its general perception by most people.  |
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FunkEducation
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 01:27 |
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yeh, i agree with you guys... it doesn't look well... i don't like it... let's see what happens in the future... MJ's new album will be released fall 2007, there's so much time... just wait...
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Supersonic1
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 03:55 |
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I'm really skeptical about this, but if MJ wants to make the biggest splash he possibly can in his comeback attempt, he WILL align himself with G-Unit and 50. I think their radio singles are garbage, but they are one of the biggest reasons why hip-hop has become THE ultimate force in music and U.S. radio (for better or worse).
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deesh
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 12:15 |
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yvie - that's a damn good post and point you made..one that i didn't consider when reading or responding originally. lovely!
mr.moon and others that commented about fiddy - i don't like him either, but he wasn't always this ummm...can't find the word for it - watered down and phony is perhaps what i'm looking for. when he first started and he was a battle MC, he was amazing..phenomenal. his delivery, lyrics, punchlines and style were unstoppable. and then he hooked up with someone else who used to be good (EM) and got money..and all that talent is now masked by an image that we are witnessed to. it's a shame, because he really is talented underneath it all.
supersonic - you make a good point about aligning himself with g-unit and 50 to gain popularity back in the states. very good point. i don't agree however that they are one of the reasons hip-hop (a term i hate to align with them) has become so mainstream. it was mainstream before that. one name: pdiddy. i put it on him how hip-hop and rap became so intertwined and mass distributed as this poppy, singy, flashy, water down, mass marketed music. i also put it on the corporations who see the CULTURE and use it for money.
fiddy is not hip-hop. he is rap. rap style pop. pop.pop.pop. that's it. that's all folks! he'll burst soon...but for now..i'm going to party like it's my birthday...
xo
ps. great discussion...thanks
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 16:50 |
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| deesh wrote: |
yvie - that's a damn good post and point you made..one that i didn't consider when reading or responding originally. lovely!
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Thanks Deesha! I just re-read what I wrote & wondered WHAT I was on about!!  Glad someone made sense of it though!!  |
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