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robotscantadlib
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Zero 7 are Jamiroquai fans..
Hi everyone,
Check out the new Zero 7 album, 'The Garden'..the track 'Futures' is practically a rip-off/sample/ode to Jamiroquai's 'Black Crow' intro, depending on how you look at it..check it out and tell me if I'm the only one who thinks that this song borrows a lot from Black Crow and other Jamiroquai tracks. |
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Catman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 02:34 |
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i think zero7 is nothing like jamiroquai... they have there own sound... listen to there other albums and u will see its a consistant sound they didnt rip off anyone...
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robotscantadlib
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 02:40 |
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Ahh, well maybe it is the wrong section. Let the moderators move it. But, if you had listened to the two songs, you'd see they are really similar. I know that Zero 7 regularly sounds nothing like Jamiroquai, but check it out before you mock me..haha
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Catman
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 02:40 |
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| Catman wrote: |
i think zero7 is nothing like jamiroquai... they have there own sound... listen to there other albums and u will see its a consistant sound they didnt rip off anyone... |
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mörö
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 18:31 |
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Re: Zero 7 are Jamiroquai fans..
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Hi everyone,
Check out the new Zero 7 album, 'The Garden'..the track 'Futures' is practically a rip-off/sample/ode to Jamiroquai's 'Black Crow' intro, depending on how you look at it..check it out and tell me if I'm the only one who thinks that this song borrows a lot from Black Crow and other Jamiroquai tracks. |
you probably are the only one. nothing like this man. wash your ears and relax. peace.
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robotscantadlib
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 21:56 |
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it's fine if i'm the only one..everyone's perspective is different. however, i know that mine is correct  i never said the songs were identical, but check out that guitar line..and the tempo and 'feel'. it's fine though, because Jamiroquai samples all the time (example: the bassline from 'Dynamite' is from a song by 1970's group Aquarian Dream) and most people don't notice it. to those with a sensitive ear and the power to internalize the music, keep on keeping on. |
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 23:18 |
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i can't find the song by zero 7 so i can't say (but i wish to ear!), and now i will also search for that aquarian dream (if you can tell me the songs name..)
thanks for postings your toughs about a jami relation song 
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robotscantadlib
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 05:35 |
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It Aint Whatcha Say by Aquarian Dream. Let me know if you can't find it, i'll figure out a way to send it to you. |
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:14 |
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can't find, i never heard of that band and only 3 matches at emule...
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freeetz!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 13:35 |
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I had a listen to the both tracks...
"Futures" intro is really reminiscent of "Black Crow", I'm tellin you.
But I don't hear anything in the Aquarian Dream song
It's just common disco octave bass, so I don't think anything is stolen here
Though I'm impressed by the music! |
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robotscantadlib
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 06:17 |
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In the chorus, there's 4 octave notes that are the same as in Dynamite's. They go up 3 times then down to the root note. Same notes/pattern..pretty subtle. |
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deesh
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saw this review, and thought of this thread...so here you go. i just remembered that they are performing in some big london festival with some other dope acts (breakestra, etc.) i think zero 7 is actually headlining. i've only heard one song by them...anyway:
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/z/zero-7/garden.shtml
Zero 7
The Garden
[Warner Bros.; 2006]
Rating: 3.2
I'll cop to being a member of a group I wouldn't guess is getting bigger: Music critics who still rate Zero 7's Simple Things. Over the past five years, I've heard music nerds-- mostly soul fanatics-- unload crazy amounts of bile on that record, but their most propagated criticisms ("soul with all the black parts removed," "music for lattes") strike me as having too much in common with the rockist's critique of pop to take seriously. Even calling Zero 7 a bad soul outfit would be to miss the point; if anything, with its revolving cast of lead vocalists and electro-acousticisms, this stuff was meant to fill the space left by trip-hop's demise. (That the only people who felt that loss happened to be Starbucks drinkers was a total and utter coincidence.)
Oh man, see? This is such an easy band to mock. They're earnest and conservative and heavy-handed and swim in such deeply unfashionable waters, they have only cod for company-- cod-jazz, cod-soul, cod-funk. But in a strange way, their painful sincerity and abiding uncoolness is what keeps me defending that first record; because it's good despite those things, and on a larger scale, it's a heartening reminder that nothing merits pre-emptive dismissal. So yeah, for a short spell back in 2001, Zero 7 was a three-legged chihuahua that had just won a dog show, and that endeared me to them. But not anymore guys, I'm sorry. So: I'm going to open the car door now, and you're going to awkwardly hop out and maybe go see what's behind that wheatfield over there while I drive away.
Actually, there's one song here I really like. That's "Futures", one of a handful featuring José González on vocals. On its own, González's dry, folksy vocal is 1970s enough, so it's no surprise it should be so well-suited to Henry Binn and Sam Hardaker's buttoned-up production style. With its spiralling acoustic riff and appropriately burbly sonics, its gorgeously languid sheen makes you wonder if, next time out, Zero 7 wouldn't be wise to acknowledge their inner-Gerry Rafferty and head straight for the punchbowl marked "MOR".
That would, without question, be better than what we get here, which-- barring two other González tracks, "Left Behind" and "Today"-- is a warmed-over stew of scrubbed-up psychedelia, scrubbed-up sunshine pop, scrubbed-up soundtrack music, electrofunk, and lounge that's all produced immaculately, right down to the "messy" parts. In addition to González, The Garden's other major guest is Sia Furler, who contributes songwriting credits and vocals to six of its 12 tracks. While I like Sia-- even despite her affected vocal and her nagging tendency to oversing-- this is not her finest hour. "Catch a falling star/ You'll go far/ In the pageant of the bizarre/ And tonight I give you my heart," goes the cloying fairground pop of "Pageant of the Bizarre", before spinning off into an ill-advised Beach Boys vocal outro.
Even worse are the perfunctory instrumental tracks-- the pseudo-broken beat of "Seeing Things" and the midnight jazz of "Your Place"-- which only further mottle the record's intent and give the impression that, if left to their own devices, Zero 7's principles would rather be making a Ninja Tune record. I don't know what I'd rather they were doing, but I do know that this is so tasteful I'm going to need about six hours with Boris to get right again.
-Mark Pytlik, June 16, 2006
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