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VirtuallyInsane
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:10 |
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*Awaiting Fra's response*
Seriously though, good luck to DVO. Kind of off on a tangent but I think it's shocking how she feels more filled out & womanly as she's bigger & weighs more than some other celebs. She does have a lovely figure & a size 10 & weighing 8st 7lbs is still clearly a perfectly healthy size & weight. Makes you realise how a lot of celebs really could do with putting on some weight. I honestly think underweight people look less healthy than those carrying a few extra pounds. I appreciate some people have as much difficulty keeping weight on as other do keeping it off & also that people do suffer from eating disorders. Society though should accept that a woman isn't only attractive if she has no hips or bum & you can see her ribs...
OK, rant over!!!
(Edited for spelling mistakes!!)
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FRA
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 14:37 |
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Yvie wrote:
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*Awaiting Fra's response*
I honestly think underweight people look less healthy than those carrying a few extra pounds.
Society though should accept that a woman isn't only attractive if she has no hips or bum & you can see her ribs...
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Here i am!
Okay:
1st point: i don't agree with u!
I heard that so many times from so many people that i think it has become an urban legend!!!!
I'm a bit overweight for my height, this is true, but i don't feel my self *sick* or i don't think people looking at me in a strange way!
What u said , for example, can be true for the opposite side!
2nd point: I agree!
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funkadelic
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 15:37 |
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I think Denise was good to say this about women.
but there ARE some of us who are under weight and do NOTHING to make ourselves like that.
my ribs stick out - and they have all my life - i don't think thats ever going to change - because thats who I am.
I think that THIS is the messege celebes need to get across - not "oh its healthy to be womanly", "thin is best to sell clothes" - these are the wrong things to say and only set an example for a set few - what influencial people need to get accross is "you are beautiful no matter what. every woman is beautiful in her own way, as long as she is beautiful on the inside then she is also beautiful on the outside".
but arent we getting a bit off-topic? lol. oh well does it matter.?! lol
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VirtuallyInsane
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 16:44 |
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I specifically made sure I said there was nothing wrong with being underweight if there is a reason for it, the same as there is nothing wrong with someone being overweight.
The only part I have a problem with is when a certain weight is considered "fashionable"
No two people even if they are of identical height & eat the same food will have the same bodies size or shape & these all play factors in a persons weight at the end of a day... |
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funkadelic
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 18:02 |
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| VirtuallyInsane wrote: |
I specifically made sure I said there was nothing wrong with being underweight if there is a reason for it, the same as there is nothing wrong with someone being overweight.
The only part I have a problem with is when a certain weight is considered "fashionable"
No two people even if they are of identical height & eat the same food will have the same bodies size or shape & these all play factors in a persons weight at the end of a day... |
I didn't mean you!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!
lol!
no I just meant these judgemental people who tell me I'm too skinny and should put on weight - I can't put on weight, and I don't ever loose weight either - so yeah. i just tell them to leave me alone.
But yeah - i got what you meant. and agreed. But I didn't really put across what i meant very well I don't think (I was on the phone to my friend trying to sort out her A-Level choices lol). so hmm
but I think our world needs to start being less image conscious - health conscious is what we need! (this is in magazines i mean)
sorry virtually insane!!!
jess
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VirtuallyInsane
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 18:17 |
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No worries Jess...
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| I just meant these judgemental people who tell me I'm too skinny and should put on weight - I can't put on weight, and I don't ever loose weight either - so yeah. i just tell them to leave me alone. |
Good for you!! People who are picked on or segregated whether they be smaller or bigger have a raw deal. The world is too judgemental & sadly as Fra said earlier:
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| Unluckily, physical attractiveness can have a significant effect on how people are judged, in terms of employment or social opportunities, friendship, sexual behavior, and marriage. |
That's wrong but sadly it's too ingrained in society for it to disappear overnight.
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| our world needs to start being less image conscious - health conscious is what we need! |
Perfectly said 
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deesh

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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 18:18 |
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OFF TOPIC :)
...well, the weight comment i made about jay is a running joke and i told him to his face that i need to make him and the guys some true soul food to make their stomach's smile!
comment not to be taken seriously.
and there is nothing wrong with being naturally skinny - i don't think people truly care.
hell, i could care less what people say about my body image. it's all good. so if i ever offend anyone with my comments, it's not on purpose. i am just confident being a healthy thick chic  _________________ www.dee34.wordpress.com |
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deesh

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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 18:15 |
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Another Denise Interview
I didn't feel this was worth starting a new topic...figured some people might be interested in this...
Denise gives her take on what she knows about men ...
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/woman/story/0,,1959799,00.html#article_continue
Denise Van Outen, 32, actress, unmarried
Interview by Lucy Siegle
Sunday December 3, 2006
The Observer
When I was younger I wish I'd known that 90 per cent of men are unfaithful. Coming from a very supportive and stable background, where my dad has always been the devoted, loyal husband and father, all that stuff was a bit of a shock. In fact, I've never been aware that a boyfriend's been unfaithful while I've been with them. I tend to find out afterwards. Then I try not to let it bother me too much because I really don't like to see other women as a threat, but infidelity still has the capacity to shock. Perhaps it's because the one time I did cheat, when I was 18, all the Catholic guilt kicked in.
I'm intuitive about men. I just don't listen to my intuition, which has caused me a lot of heartache and grief. I certainly have a type: men who need saving, the weaker, troubled type. Meanwhile, they're drawn to me because they see me as a strong character. Recently one guy said something to the effect of, 'I love you Den, because I know you'd take care of me.' I just thought, 'Well you haven't said you'd look after me and I'd quite like looking after too sometimes.' A lot of men I've gone out with demanded so much of my time and attention, that I gave up part of myself.
I moved to the US at the start of the year and I'm having a great time just dating. It's also quite useful to be anonymous there - at least in dating terms. I even had a snog in a nightclub and I felt like a teenager. The guys there are very good looking and I tend to get crushes. I've got about five crushes going on at the moment. Then there's one guy with such an amazing voice that I let it go to voicemail so I've got a memento. Long-term he's not for me, I just like his voice.
I love my job because I like showing off and singing and dancing. I don't do it because I need affirmation or because I'm insecure, which is why a lot of people are driven in this industry. I'm emotionally quite mature, I think, and perhaps some men don't realise that. I guess I've seen my parents sit down and work things out. They used to bicker a lot, and seeing as it took my dad 11 years to build our conservatory it's not surprising. I'm not sure I'd have that amount of patience. But I've got too much patience with male emotions. I've had my heart broken, but I've probably broken a couple too. I like to stay friends with men I've been involved with; I still speak to Jay [Kay from Jamiroquai] a lot. There was a guy in the past who I tried to be friends with but every time I tried to make contact he thought it was something more. In that case, it's fairer to cut your ties.
The actor James Lance was my first proper boyfriend at school and I adored him. I thought he was quite into me too, then it went weird. Basically I heard that he said I didn't have any tits, which was quite hurtful at 14 as I was a bit of a late developer. A few weeks ago I bumped into him in LA and resolved this issue at the grand old age of 32. He said he'd been told that I said he was a crap kisser. Anyway, we worked out that the source of the rumours was another kid in our class.
Male motivation is endlessly fascinating to me. I've only been engaged once, to Jay, but I've been proposed to three times. I asked a male friend of mine who used to be a real player, but who is now married and settled, how he knew this girl was the one. He said that he'd dated loads of amazing women who were wife material but he just looked at this girl one day and thought, 'Now I'm ready'. I think this is true of a lot of men: it's about right place, right time, which isn't terribly romantic. Often you go out with a guy and start to feel insecure because the relationship's not progressing and, as a woman, you think it's because you're not good enough. Nine times out of 10 it's nothing to do with you. They're just not ready. I see that now and find it quite comforting because I just think, 'Oh well, your loss, mate'. Besides, one man's loss is another man's gain. _________________ www.dee34.wordpress.com |
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Jamiroquanna
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 18:32 |
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Thanks for posting Deesh
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| He said that he'd dated loads of amazing women who were wife material but he just looked at this girl one day and thought, 'Now I'm ready'. I think this is true of a lot of men: it's about right place, right time, which isn't terribly romantic. |
Denise is spot on when it comes to the above. It's certainly all about timing! |
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peggy
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 20:10 |
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I'm a bit overweight for my height, this is true, but i don't feel my self *sick* or i don't think people looking at me in a strange way!
What u said , for example, can be true for the opposite side! |
Overweight ? Huhhhh, am i missing something ? _________________ www.thisispeggy.com
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mr.az

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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 23:39 |
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when u were young u always make things wrong and right  _________________ Only a fool can walk away from me this time
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funkmonkey

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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 03:00 |
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DVO
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 17:14 |
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Great find Sam, thanks  _________________
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Deja

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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 17:19 |
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| FRA wrote: |
I'm a bit overweight for my height, this is true, but i don't feel my self *sick* or i don't think people looking at me in a strange way!
What u said , for example, can be true for the opposite side!
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OVERWEIGHT??? means you have more of what u should ...but Tata you are the opposite!!! me and you togheter (as weight) don't do one leg of Denise VO!!
no comment on her interview!
BTW I'm more than 10 kilos under my ideal weight...and I'm working hard to get 10 grams so this is not my favorite subject...but yes often ppl look at me thinking I must be sick or droug addicted!
But...one good thing in being soo Slim is that I cut off all thoose supid idiots that consider women only from the size of the brest..and let me tell You..after I've seen a couple of time how they do behave with my friends ( big breast ones)...I thank life everyday!
Vere _________________ No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main and any man's death diminishes me, because
I am involved in Mankind.
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FRA
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