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| What do you think about Saddam Hussein's execution? |
| Finally we're rid of this bastard! |
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| Death penalty is inhumane! |
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| If they hanged Saddam, they should've hanged Bush sr, Bush jr and a lot of other politicians too! |
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ophone
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Saddam Hussein's executed
Well, I want to know from the Jamily what it thinks about the hanging of Saddam Hussein.
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Dye
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 16:57 |
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Is a terrible thing. We are slowly going back to the stone age.
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Catalonia is not Spain
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 17:12 |
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I think this sad fact shows that we need an international right for real, not contradictory decisions taken by countrys according to their agreement. It's ridiculous how old is the current 'international right' in comparison with most of state's right. |
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 17:59 |
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how can peace and freedom be based on comiting murder?  |
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FRA
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Space Clav
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 18:58 |
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I guess it's fairly easy to say that a man with so many lifes on his hands deserved death himself. And it's probably even easier to call for the death penalty if his tyrant rule affected your own family and caused death and suffering. Sure, Saddam was a swine, and he deserves to burn in hell. No question about it. But he, like any other human being, would die sooner or later and hell wouldn't go cold waiting for him.
My first reaction when I heard they were going to hang him was more or less "yeah, kill the bastard". But...
I'm not saying he deserved anything else but death. But killing him was actually the worst thing to do. First of all, they kind of let him off easy. Death is easy. You suffer for a short time then it's over.
Saddam was a man who lived an extravagant lifestyle. With bathrooms filled with 24K gold supplies and everything good life has to offer someone with a lot of money. While the Iraqi people were persecuted, tortured, killed and those fortunate enough to actually live lived under very poor conditions, this man and his family lead a life in excess luxury.
Death is too easy for this kind of man. The best penalty would be to lock him up in a prison for the rest of his life. Ending his life like that would hurt a thousand times more than ending it at the end of a rope.
By killing him they also created a martyr... not a good move. Instead of being remembered as the murderous bastard he was, some history books will instead portrait him as a hero, a true warrior who showed defiance against the great Satan (USA) until the bitter end.
Spending the rest of his life in jail under poor conditions (good enough to keep him alive) would have been the ultimate price to pay for a man like him. They should have kept him there for the world to remember and for him to suffer. And...
It's possible... not likely, but possible, that Saddam, at old age on his death bed, would confess things that is of great interest for the history books. Such as CIA connections, WMD - to be or not to be etc.
That chance is gone now I'm afraid.
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 18:58 |
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| FRA wrote: |
| I voted for the 3rd option: i agree with the execution; murderous tyrants should be executed and justice has been served. Finally. Saddam was like Hitler and received what he deserved. I really hope he's burnin in hell. |
And I hope Mr. Dubya joins him there, soon. Actually, there's a whole lotta politicians who are getting away with all they're doing. |
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ophone
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 19:00 |
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I agree with you Space Clav, they should've emprisoned him for life on a bread and water base.
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Dye
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 19:17 |
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| FRA wrote: |
| I voted for the 3rd option: i agree with the execution; murderous tyrants should be executed and justice has been served. Finally. Saddam was like Hitler and received what he deserved. I really hope he's burnin in hell. |
The only one who is allowed to take lifes is God up there. Is we want to end with the killing... well... then killing is not an option.
They should've kept them in a jail.
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Sandriche
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 20:21 |
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also agree with jonas..i was discussing this with some friends and we all said..death was just too easy! he didn´t really suffer as all the victims..
and what u said about "heroe"...yes absolutely..many people will have pity on him..
blood will lead to more blood..its a devil circle..
why isn´t there a global anti death penalty law yet ???????
we are an educated civilisation! we have brain to think , we have translaters for communication between countries..we have the responsibility for the generations after us..
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Marina
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 21:00 |
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| Sandriche wrote: |
why isn´t there a global anti death penalty law yet ??????? |
there is something like that in America, it's called "Pacto de San José de Costa Rica", it's a pact between countries where they agree not to let Death Penalty be legal again
these are the countries who had signed for the agreement: Antigua y Barbuda, Argentina, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominica, Ecuador, El Salvador, United States, Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haití, Honduras, Jamaica, México, Nicaragua, Panamá, Paraguay, Perú, República Dominicana, San Kitts y Nevis, Santa Lucía, St. Vicente & Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad y Tobago, Urugay, Venezuela |
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CosmicBear
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 21:32 |
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| marina_diksaitis wrote: |
there is something like that in America, it's called "Pacto de San José de Costa Rica", it's a pact between countries where they agree not to let Death Penalty be legal again
these are the countries who had signed for the agreement: Antigua y Barbuda, Argentina, Bahamas, Barbados, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Dominica, Ecuador, El Salvador, United States , Grenada, Guatemala, Guyana, Haití, Honduras, Jamaica, México, Nicaragua, Panamá, Paraguay, Perú, República Dominicana, San Kitts y Nevis, Santa Lucía, St. Vicente & Grenadines, Suriname, Trinidad y Tobago, Urugay, Venezuela |
signing a piece of paper doesn't stop people doing the wrong thing unfortunately.
george bush, who's applauding the death of a person is as sick and wrong as the killer himself.
how do you punish someone like Sadam Hussein? By commiting the same crime he commited over and over again? How can this country ever find peace and freedom?
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Supersonic1
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| Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 22:04 |
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Guys...when the coalition forces pulled Saddam out of that dirt hole in Tikrit, did you really think he was going to get anything BUT the death penalty?
For the most part, I say 'Eye for an eye.' For a man that killed thousands upon thousands of his own people, he deserved to hang. But a small part of me also believes that for the first time in a while, Bush got what he wanted: revenge on the man that tried to kill his daddy 15 or so years ago. I can't get over this hunch, that Iraq wasn't so much to spread democracy as it is to spill Saddam's blood.
I'm also afraid that with time, this will mean next to nothing if my country's troops don't get Osama bin Laden. It was HIM - not Saddam - that started us into this mess. If the coalition cannot kill Osama, this saga will have been pointless to undertake.
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Deja
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 01:17 |
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Yesterday I was watching a TvNews and they were showing thoose images of Saddam getting ready to be killed and I must admitted the way they showed was really sad ( then being agian death in any form helped to feel sad ) but the thing that shocked me is that the news after that was about a few Kamikaze suicide assoults in Iraq where 100 ppl died...well my mind registered as"nothing" ..or "normal" all the sadness I was feeling x a single man even knowing he was not one member of the Holy Trinity is his life was vanished x 100 ppl just 'cause I'm getting use do see this!
I don't know If I can explain esactly what did shock me.. I guess I did my best...this is not about the right or the wrong of killing Saddam..is about being addicted to death so that a house totally exploded, black and full of death doesn't effect me like a man whit a ripe around his neck!
Few more things:
I agree with Jonas when he say that Death is just too easy, and not only is this case!
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| I'm also afraid that with time, this will mean next to nothing if my country's troops don't get Osama bin Laden. It was HIM - not Saddam - that started us into this mess. If the coalition cannot kill Osama, this saga will have been pointless to undertake |
Are we really sure he is the one who started the all thing?? I have the feeling it did not all started on september 11th! I have the feeling it started centuries agò when ppl civilized create nice things like: slavery, civilization (Inca, Atsechi Mapuche....are still tanking us x thoose great ideas) and conversion to Cristianity.
To me, and x sure is a personal opinion, it all started when power and richness became the most important things x humanity...I should add sex to thoose two..but sex is a good thing natural beutifull and also healty, people are often the ones that turn it into a nasty thing ( see Tailand, kids market...and unfortunalty on and on and on). Sorry x the OT!
About killing Saddam..well I have 2 different thoughs, the first and main is that death is not something a man should decide but only nature, but I must admit that the second is that I don't know how to deal with that when the subject is crimes against humanity not 'couse I think is right, but 'couse I can imagine being in the clothes of the people that soffered x this!
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Supersonic1
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Hey Deja, when I meant 'this mess,' I meant the war. I made no allusions to anything else. 
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