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PietroChocko
Joined: 02 Oct 2003
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IT ISNT MUSIC STEALING!
it's just that we do not have a current band that has the (almost) same sound as JMQ, and now these guys come out with the same music.
earth, wind & fire were accused of sounding the same as the commodores, but it's just the same genre, not the same music.
when maroon 5 do a cover of cosmic girl.... THAT is music stealing. |
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mtey
Joined: 30 Nov 2003
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Location: Slovenia
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 07:12 |
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Covering a song isn't stealling!
Stealling is when you copy a song and say that you made it or that you for example add it on album and don't add original artists to credits. And without the knowledge or original band or record company.
Well, something like that |
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cheeeba lover
Joined: 08 Jun 2004
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Location: croatia
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:11 |
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i agree mtey;if maroon5 have written on the album that they used a sample from jamiroquai,then this topic would have a different name..something like "MAROON5 SAMPLING JAMIROQUAI" but its not like that and i had to react.. 
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Catman
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| Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:15 |
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| PietroChocko wrote: |
when maroon 5 do a cover of cosmic girl.... THAT is music stealing. |
no when Maroon5 do a cover of cosmic girl release it without jamiroquai's permission and sell it ... that is music stealing!
just a note: anyway due to "copyright act" we're not even aloud to listen to music we bought , on a cd player out in public ... even tho no one else can hear it! ... the system is totally roarted!  |
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Lista
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
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Location: Split, Croatia
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 14:10 |
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We're not gonna talk about the system, 'cause if im not mistaken, we're all on JamiroHub right now downloading. Which is ofcourse, illegal.
But to get back to the topic, Maroon 5 obviously did not steal anything. They're just honouring the great Jamiroquai. |
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Phunky
Joined: 10 Aug 2004
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Location: Sweden
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 16:12 |
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OMG THEY'RE STEALING! THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR!
Congratulations cheeba lover, you have won the idiotic award.
Bands sample all the time, i guess someone isn't familiar with the music business  
PS. thanks for proving your 8 years-old.
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cheeeba lover
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 16:34 |
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sampling is when you give credit on your album to group that you sampled,but changing the music and twisting it into your own is STEALING!
i know phunky this is too much information for you to handle but please try.. 
we discussed this and you didnt even read it,you just waited oportunity to "insult" me,next time read the topic please. 
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Phunky
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 16:52 |
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hahaha, thanks for making me laugh. the thought never struck you that maybe they made it themself and it's just a coincedence? maybe you should go easy on the cheeba, tough guy.
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mrdance
Joined: 27 Aug 2004
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Location: South London
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 18:15 |
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my two cents here
Do they really sound the same?? I hadn't drawn the comparison before I read this thread. Same genre? again I'm not sure...
As for Sunday Mornings sounding like Virtual Insanity hmmmm.... again im not convinced! The reeds break in the middle and the end is similar but 'tisnt plagurism (sp)
Good Music tho! |
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JamiroFan2000
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Joined: 21 Mar 2002
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Location: The Jamiroquaized States Of America
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| Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 23:06 |
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 Hello again,
Whoa, this topic is still buzzing....hmm weird! I would have thought this convo would have wrapped up rather quickly..hehe! In regards to sampling, there is no stealing involved there, the sampled artist gets a small profit off the royalities of the sampling artist. How the heck do you think Hip Hop gets it's beats for their high name artists ? Oh well, thanks for the listening and Peace!
Sincerely hopes Maroon 5 goes on a extended vacation,
JamiroFan2000
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crazyjack
Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Location: Montreal, Canada
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 01:33 |
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Well jamiroquai did also a lot of sampling too . If u guys dont believe me just listen to the following songs:
could heaven be like this by idris muhammad ( Alright )
Samurai by Djavan ( virtual insanity)
super strut by deodato ( cosmic girl)
Dance Dance Dance by Chic ( canned heat)
Shaft by issac hayes ( soul education)
you and I by stevie wonder ( canned heat)
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driftin_alone
Joined: 17 Oct 2004
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Location: MINSK
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 02:12 |
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maroon 5
Here in Belarus i heard much talkings about it too , but i think its not true .... i like Maroon 5 |
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Ivy
Joined: 25 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 22:50 |
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Jaminneapolis
Joined: 22 Feb 2004
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Location: Minneapolis, MN U.S.A.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 04:26 |
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Ivy,
Well said. Welcome to the forum btw. It's always good to see people from the U.S. postin on here. Lata!
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GOZA
Joined: 04 Feb 2005
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Location: Indiana, USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 06:14 |
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I disagree...Maroon 5 didn't steal anything.
Let's look at it from a compositional standpoint (if you're not a musician...this may make no sense to you.
"Sunday Morning" is a basic ii-V7-I for about 90% of the tune. That sequence of chords is one of the most basic turnarounds and is the basis for billions of songs.
"Virtual Insanity" does have a similarity because it's chord progression follows the same cycle of fourths. There are far more differences than similarities.
SAME-use of acoustic piano, similar tempo, and the singer has a similar vocal tone quality with a similar range to Jay Kay's.
DIFFERENT-SM is in a Major key, VI is in a minor key
SM has very standard pop lyrics, VI takes more risks and covers a topic far more unexplored
SM has less substance and a significantly more limited instrumentation...VI is more complex, with more turns and plenty more chords (making the harmonic motion much more interesting...look, I can go on for days.
They are both good songs, but we all know which one is a higher quality!
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