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Little H - KSA

Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 806
Location: Too far west of where heaven lies

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 20:46

I'm an Irish Cockney. I was born in East London, England, and lived the first 20 years of my life very happily and proudly there. My father was born in London, his father was a Londoner, and his mother was Irish. My mother is Irish from Donegal, and her mother and father were from the same village. But I have sort of lost my identity and have become so absorbed by the culture that I have immersed myself in for the last 23 years. I have become a foreigner in my own land and to my own people who seem to have lost their identity too. It's seems as far as I have been able to trace my grandparents back, is only a few generations, and all from the far north west coast of Ireland. So DYKWYC(oming) F(rom) and DYKWYG(oing) T(o) are two very good questions. The second is the hardest, although I have some very wild dreams that still have to be fulfilled. Thanks for making us do a little Soul Educating of ourselves VI !!! _________________ Jamily to the bone !!! http://www.flickr.com/groups/organ_donation/

mr_moon

Joined: 07 Dec 2005
Posts: 659
Location: Concrete Jungle In UK

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 16:51

Little H - KSA wrote:

I have become a foreigner in my own land and to my own people who seem to have lost their identity too.

I love this observation! I know exactly what you mean.

Little H - KSA

Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 806
Location: Too far west of where heaven lies

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 17:30

LOL @ Mr. Moon - At least I am not the only one who can observe the manifestation of this identity crisis !!! And I'm not a racist as some others might be quick to remark. Where did the real average English accent disappear to ??? And why have we been invaded by rap-slang double negatives, when we have our own pure form of ??? I love talking to old ladies at bus stops, and 'ole boys on park benches just to hear how they speak and stories of the old days. Because I speak a foreign language with my children, most people presume that I am a 'foreigner' too. They try to commend me telling me that I speak very good English - LOL - and I am more English than they are !!! Then I throw them a few sentences that are over their head and wait for the a few 'oh, yeah, right, yeah, right' Dell-boy style responses. And it is true that you know you are getting old when the policement start to look too young for the job, but apart from my mature retrospect on where did the British people go, I am glad that other and younger people feel the same. It's not snobbery it just a sad recognition. _________________ Jamily to the bone !!! http://www.flickr.com/groups/organ_donation/

Samiroquai

Joined: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 1020
Location: North Somerset and Manchester, both in England

Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 23:54

Is my accent not 'middle English' enough for you then, Heather?! I was born in Gloucester (someone had to be...), my dad was born in High Wycombe but is northern really - both his dad's and his mum's sides of his family were from Tyldesley and Oldham, both just outside Manchester. My mum's from Nottingham with a Sheffield mother (though you'd never bloody know it if you'd heard her talk) and an Ulsterman for a father. For anyone foreign, Ulster means Northern Ireland. So you can imagine his delight when two of his four daughters married Catholics (though my dad converted and my Catalan uncle never really practised in the first place). But that's another matter. About five generations back, my dad's family came from Ireland - the Republic, that is. Both sides, because my dad's dad and his mum were very distantly related by marriage (that makes me sound inbred, doesn't it. I'm not, honest. VERY distantly, I'd like to stress that). Hence my surname, Kelly. Noe's got one German grandma, one Italian grandma, and is in any case Argentine, thus the parts of her that aren't dirty cheating German / Italian are dirty cheating other immigrant group, so she's even more of a mix than me. Our kids are going to have some difficult 'who to support?' decisions to make when World Cups roll round... Sam

mr.az

Joined: 01 Sep 2005
Posts: 2421
Location: rallying

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 02:22

-i was born in chile -i live in argentina -i know i have arabic origins on my family and i need search more about miself _________________ Only a fool can walk away from me this time TWM=RDLS AFO=AUTOMATON

Little H - KSA

Joined: 05 Jan 2004
Posts: 806
Location: Too far west of where heaven lies

Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 15:00

Samiroquai wrote:

Is my accent not 'middle English' enough for you then, Heather?!

Just let me get into 'Absolutely Fabulous' mode and I'll give you an update - LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - I mean ja, ja, ja !!!

(Hi Noe, and oh how I miss Mariana !!! ja, ja, ja !!!)
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