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jamirokaki
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you're laughing? nice way of treating youre friends.
it's sad to say, but you've gonna lost it all.
you can say you don't need any of us or any forum, but we all know you do.
yo and me are good friends, same happens with some other memebers you are insulting, but this may end.
why do you keep doing this? you know how hard is to run a forum, you have your own and you had all the support you needed, we've been there with you helping out, but then, you act this way, like a stupid child, coming here to insult the forum and the people.
it's clear you are bored, why then, don't you write all this shit in jamirox and laught there? didn't you want that place to talk about whatever you want and have a free forum?
well, there you have that place. go there and wait the people to reply you there...any problem with that?
yes. you will be alone in that place. is you who have converted it in a very very cheap place. that cheap that neither you like it.
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Sandriche
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 15:08 |
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what is the actual problem ?
that the topics have been splitted?
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CosmicMouse
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 15:09 |
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hahaha yeh a reason to piss all over my face.... hahaha....
u guys did it to janluka aswell..... |
mike, please read my long posting in this topic and you see that this was not my intention. who is insulting? you or me? english is not my native language but I know that "bitch" and "retarded" are not very charming... correct me if I am wrong.
in general: the only reason to split messages like that (also in Janluka's case) is, to enable a discussion about the issue to find a solution, to give room for excuses and to clear it at a seperated place. This would not really be possible within the original topic without going off-topic.
I could have just deleted your message with the big letters... but then you would have been pissed off as well. So I respected your "critic" and gave you a room to make your concerns more clear instead of insulting me. But you prefered to leave for a while and come back, starting the whole thing again.
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Space Clav
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 18:08 |
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The development of this drama makes me sad. 
The ones involved should be able to work it out on MSN. Or even better, with Skype... words on a monitor doesn't have the same effect as real words spoken by a human being.
Mike, you know I like you, a lot. But... you're wrong mate! I think you should stop, take a step or two backwards and carefully think things over. Then you should actually talk with Meike.
This is not an anti-Catman conspiracy. People are not ganging up on you to "piss all over your face". People who care for you wants to help you resolve this issue. I hope you can see that mate.
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 19:51 |
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yes, i'm totally agree with that.
makes me sad too
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 22:47 |
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This really is saddenning
I don't know what the fuck's goin' on around here, but I do know that this didn't have a pretty start, and having some people's mental nature in mind, won't end in a pretty fashion.
Catman, I remember sometime back on JPP... You were telling some awful things not just to newcomers, but to many other people there. JPP's lack of some things isn't the only fault. People going around throwing insults, and magnifying every single little bad thing about a person till it becomes not a target, but all of it the bull's eye. Fuck, Catman, you need to learn how to behave. You're laughing the fuck out of your lungs at some people's minor mistakes, while you usually overlook many of your own wrongdoings. I must admit I had my share of hypocricy in the past, but Catman, you're really going over the top. [You always did.] The word Jamily is a portmaneau of Jamiroquai and family.
Family.
So, how would you feel if a close friend or even a closer relative would suddenly start spitting all kinds of insults at you for no reason? Think about it, nutter! 
The Jamily is a community where respect is more worth than gold. You respect somebody, and he or she will have some repect for you. I've been, and I still am eager to help people who need answers, if I know the answers, that is. You, Catman, on the other hand, just laugh at them for not knowing things less obvious to newer Jamiroquai fans.
Yes, I am criticising you, and I'm fucking proud of it.
You, man, need to change. It's not so hard to be polite. The Internet makes you semi-anonymous, but that certainly doesn't mean that you can do what you want to do around here. Laugh your fucking lungs out IRL, but please, don't hit on people online.
This whole thing's 'bout respect, Mike. Is it that hard to have some of it for people? |
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Catman
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Knjaz.... ur a fucking retard!
do u have any clue as to who i am mate ?
seriously.... u obviously have no fucking clue right ..... coz from what i just read u dont! .....
seriously kno the situation and understand it before u try to tackle something out of ur grasp mate....
"So, how would you feel if a close friend or even a closer relative would suddenly start spitting all kinds of insults at you for no reason? Think about it, nutter! " , This whole thing's 'bout respect, Mike. Is it that hard to have some of it for people?
u kno what Knjaz .... im not going to let u call me mike ... becoz u dont fucking kno mike .... u kno catman but u have no grasp on the type of person who i actually am .... seriously mate , hahaha and u think im not fucking polite .... oh boy seriously... u have no fucking clue mate really do u ? haha... boy gee.... seriously u have no idea about me and what u have written there doesnt impact me becoz u have gotten it 100000% wrong seriously mate.... do u even read my posts, have u ever been to the X .... for fuck sakes mate get it right before u go posting total bullshit ....
but u kno what on the other hand i do respect so many people on this site and stuff , these people kno it aswell... they kno both sides of me ! im a very moody and can be extremly stubborn! i came back and posted the other night becoz i felt like i wanted a change and was going to give this place another go , i made an ice breaker with the star academy thread ... something funny and well very catmanish ... then i ventured over to this thread to re-read it .... i didnt like what i wrote , then i proceeded to continue to read it and stumbled along evov's comment and it set me off once again .... how dare he say something fuck tarded like that... it seriously stupid , if someone was to be banned from this forum , why on earth would they want to come back, i kno i wouldnt , anyway evov u retard if someone was to be banned from this site who was a complete nuisence the use of just a name ban would be ridiculous u smart ass an IP ban would be more of an order to how it would be handled ... everyone knows my history at this forum long ago i wanted to get banned from this site, i requested to meike for her to ban me but she wouldnt , everyone proberly remembers the extreme length i went thru to make hell on this forum and it was achieved i simply had to threten meike with flooding the forum with abuse towards anything and everything . i've seriously been to hell and back on this forum, ive made friends and enemies ( by enemies i mean people who dont understand me ) which Knjaz is obviously one of them..... So u kno what ive come to the conclusion that im not the kind of person who feeds off hatred, evilness and abusive comments towards people to some people it may seem that way but im not that kind of person ... i hate it , but on the same token im also sick and tired with alot of the shit i read on forums i guess that happens when u become a forum slut like myself tho, so becoz of how much shit ive said on this forum and how much of hell ive made the moderators and officers on this forum im goign to Apologize to Jamirotalk.Net .... so im sorry , its honestly a heartfelt apology ... this is directed mainly towards Meike, Miran, Space Clav , Inaki , not Knjaz becoz he doesnt kno me!
So yeh im sorry ..... and i need some time off to myself becoz i have alot of shit in my life currently that i need to sort out , like finding a new job but also having to look after my sick aunt & take care of my nonno . so yeh .... i will be in and out but proberly not as frequent... all my friends here know my usual hangouts online and have my msn
cheers guys , and goodluck .... please try to evolve in the direction that isnt jpp !
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CosmicMouse
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 13:38 |
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Mike, thanks for your apology! I am glad we could sort this out finally.
Just a few thoughts... for the future...
We all have bad days or periods - I am going through a tough time myself right now, but I always try to keep my postings free of insults and don't take it out on someone else.
I and some others are aware that there is a "Catman" and a "Mike" and I know there is a difference. That's why it takes so long for me to make the final step to ban you. I am far away from really knowing you, but I do know you can be moody and that you actually are a good boy, that's why I never give up hope that you understand my main concern: keeping the forum cosy, informative and respectful. I think that's not so far away from your own ideas.
But there are other people who don't really know you (the Mike) but you cannot really blame them for that. They only remember some scenes where you were insulting, disrespectful and provoking. They only see this side of you and in the past years I often got the request or suggestion: "why don't you ban him, considering all the trouble he is making."
As I said in a previous message in this thread, I don't wanna lose you in this community - i never wanted that. So I keep defending you and justify your behaviour which is not easy sometimes...
I think we all would have it easier if you weren't playing "a role" or something... you don't need to be the "forum defeatists". Just be yourself.
And to come back to the start: I have a big team standing behind me and we are discussing a lot about quality, and how to improve the forum. Trust us!  ... I don't see the forum ruined by some silly games.
I hope we are through now.
I can see you on msn again - so I am not banned anymore!! 
I'll switch mine on as soon as I am having more time (and less crying kids here)... promised!
Mouse
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 14:32 |
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thanks for the apology.
as for the knjaz "issue". i think he didn't say any lie in his post so i tihnk everything he said is true and real.
he may don't know you but he says clever thins in my opinion.
if you feel in opposite way you should try to discuss them in order of just insult him. you can even show your anger without insulting. thats what i would ask.
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 17:02 |
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Okay... I don't know you.
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[...What I said right now can be accurately interpreted into "I'll keep my freakin' mouth closed from now on if something similar to this happens in the future, just to avoid stirring ***t up by accident, since I'm known for such things."] |
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Space Clav
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 17:31 |
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Thanks for the apology Mike.
I hope you find a new job you like in a near future. Don't forget to take care of yourself while taking care of your aunt and your nonno. If you need to get in touch with me you know my email and you have my MSN (although I'm not on there too often). I wish you all the best and I hope you know that.
Take care mate and see you around. 
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LLCoolJR
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 17:38 |
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Good luck sorting some things out, Mike!
(Still too bad you sometimes have your own ways to communicate. It's difficult when you're reacting provoking and disrespectful. I think you know the problem yourself.) |
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 19:31 |
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| Knjaz wrote: |
Okay... I don't know you.
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[...What I said right now can be accurately interpreted into "I'll keep my freakin' mouth closed from now on if something similar to this happens in the future, just to avoid stirring ***t up by accident, since I'm known for such things."] |
maybe i'm explained myslef badly but i was saying catman shouldn't insult you.
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Knjaz
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 19:55 |
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| jamirokaki wrote: |
| Knjaz wrote: |
Okay... I don't know you.
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[...What I said right now can be accurately interpreted into "I'll keep my freakin' mouth closed from now on if something similar to this happens in the future, just to avoid stirring ***t up by accident, since I'm known for such things."] |
maybe i'm explained myslef badly but i was saying catman shouldn't insult you. |
No, no, you don't understand it all... It's just that I wanna shut the f*ck up and not toss in my 2 cents when it comes to some sensitive discussions, since I always seem to be the accidental catalyst of a problem's escalation to a higher, more dangerous level.
[Let's just pretend I never replied to this topic, just to avoid some further discussion and possible topic hijack] |
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