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SweDanFunk



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 21:33    Reply with quote

Equipment for the beginner musican
Hey everyone!

Im going to "build" Laughing my own mini studio, im going to buy a computer and a keyboard.

So i wonder what tips you guys have, i know im not going to be able to buy everything on the sam time, espcially not after i bought that fender bass.

Wich computer is to prefered?, wich program is the best?
With keyboard is the coolest?
and so on.


/DanielR
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jameerica



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 21:52    Reply with quote


computer-macintosh g5(i think it's called that)
program-i think there was this stuff called filter or propeller or something like that...keyboard dunno really
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SimonM



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 09:49    Reply with quote


I use a MacBook Pro, Mbox2 (which comes with Pro Tools). Simple setup. I then have a MIDI keyboard, a set of Edirol MA-15D active monitors, and various bass gear. Most of my sounds on my own tracks come from plugins for Pro Tools, or other musicians.
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SweDanFunk



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 15:02    Reply with quote


Cool Simon.

So i should buy software since i already have a computer and not samplers?

/DanielR
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 17:53    Reply with quote


I prefer a Mac. But I think you would get most value for your money if you went with a PC. Just make sure you don't install questionable applications if you want a stable production environment.

Pro Tools is sweet and it comes with the audio interface hardware (it's the other way around really). But... You're probably better off with something that can handle VST plugs. Lots of decent free stuff out there. RTAS plugs for PT costs major moolah.

If I was you I'd try to find the last version of Logic Audio available for PC (4.7?). It's discontinued as Apple bought the application and killed the PC version. You should be able to find it used or in a bargain box at some retailer now.

It probably has all the features you would need. It does VST 2.0, it does Logic Audio Instruments and Effects. You have enough MIDI and audio channels for a bedroom studio without a doubt.

The EVP88 is a virtual audio instrument for Logic which will give you mean electric pianos, it sounds much better than a sampled Rhodes. I'd say it's the best thing if you can't afford a real Rhodes piano. Hell... even Herbie Hancock himself demostrated and supported it.

Then you have EXS24 which is a virtual sampler, it does the common formats such as WAV and AIF but also AKAI CD-ROM and SoundFont conversion.

ES1 is a virtual synth and it sounds really good too. Does wicked sub-bass sounds.

The built in effects are wicked too. I remember that I spent hours just tweaking sounds because it sounded fun.

The EVP88/EXS24/ES1 are actually already in the program (in the Gold version if I recall correctly, perhaps in Silver too... Google to find out), they just need to be unlocked as far as I can remember. I do remember that was the deal with the Mac version anyway. But in case you get yourself another version of Logic Audio 4.7 these plugins are also old enough to be found at low prices nowadays.

Just make sure you get yourself a nice sound card. This is important! Then you can change sequencer/host application in the future. A card like M-Audio Delta 66 will allow you to run PT (M-Powered) in the future too so you really don't have to pay through your nose to get Digidesign hardware.

Unless you buy shedloads of hardware synths and sampers you don't need a proper MIDI interface with many ports. A nice MIDI keyboard with USB would do fine as long as you work with softsynths/softsamplers in a sequencer. Just make sure the keyboard is velocity sensitive. That's the most important thing. Then weighted keys would be nice if you prefer the piano approach rather than the synth approach when playing.

Oh, and you should get two good mics. Take a look at eBay and see if you can find used Shure and Beyerdynamic mics at affordable prices. Shure SM-57 is a very versatile mic you can use for virtually anything you want to record. You need two. Beyerdynamic M88N is another "workhorse" that can do pretty much anything as well. It's probably even better than the SM-57... but it's more expensive. I have two M88N and one SM-57. I'm very happy with them. They do Rhodes, guitar, bass and vocals very well.

Hope this helps. Smile
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SimonM



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 09:31    Reply with quote


Yes. Mr. Clav makes very good points!

But I'm a Pro Tools man! Smile

Get a piece of their hardware and the software comes free. PT is also industry standard. You will find it in almost every studio around the world. Regarding the RTAS plugin's, there are a whole bunch of 'free' ones about that would usually cost you and arm and a leg - you just gotta know where to look! (I say that as a Mac user though, not sure about the PC scene) Confused .
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