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CosmicMouse
Jamirotalk mum
Joined: 10 Feb 2002
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Location: Germany
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The value of money in the world
Inspired from another discussion here, I was curious what value does money have in different countries.
I would like to know, what you can buy in your country for 1 EUR, for example?
And what does (Jamiroquai) concert tickets cost at your place, and how long do you have to work for it?
I am living in Europe/Germany and for 1 EUR I can download legally one song from the internet. 
Otherwise one EURO is not much here. FOr example: When I am going shopping in order to buy food for one week and I am taking my kids with me, I give Marlin 50 cent so that he can buy a lollypop  . That make 50 cents + 50 cents (2 kids) = 1 EUR each shopping tour with kids.
A concert ticket costs about 50 EUR.
The average monthly income of a family in Germany is about 2000 EUR (you can correct me if I am wrong... I couldn't find a propper statistic right now).
So, maybe you can understand now, that I was surprised to hear that there are people who cant afford to do a pay-download for 99 Cent. It's nothing where I live. 
And I am not rich. (What is rich?) We have to pay debts off, and we lend money from the bank, buying on credits... I will have to pay it back one day... 
Mouse
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Lista
Joined: 14 Nov 2004
Posts: 163
Location: Split, Croatia
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:41 |
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Well that one Euro here in Croatia would be 7,5 Kuna. Our pay averages in about 3.500 Kuna..so that song is not so cheap for me/us 
And let's say that you wanna buy Opel Astra ( im saying that 'cause i did that ), they you have a monthly payment of 1,600 Kuna for six years. So its expensive. But we're not poor, far from it. We just have lower standard than you guys. |
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GoodVibeZone
Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 139
Location: England
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:46 |
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i think we should share it, i mean when the album is realesed we everyone will buy it, i dont see how helo out a few people will harm anyone. i know im going to buy it, along with the single on cd. i think people who are going to find it difficult should be helped out
thanks
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Serge
Joined: 24 Dec 2002
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Location: In my Mondy
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:55 |
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OK, lets see...
1 Euro = £0.7-£0.6 I think, depending on the rate. That's not really a lot, infact to be honest, I wouldn't think twice about buying that track, I'd just do it.
To give you an idea about the UK:
-Mainly, it's similar to what Meike described
-Prices are generally high compared to other countries
-The average wage is about £23,000 per year
-20 ciggarettes = £4.50 at least (for decent ones)
-1 litle of petrol = £0.8 (fukn tax)
I spend £4.50 on cigs every 2 days, so 1 euro isn't very much
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| We have to pay debts off, and we lend money from the bank, buying on credits |
Same here too.
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PietroChocko
Joined: 02 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:14 |
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here in australia, 1 EUR = $1.90 AUD (ozzi dollars), which, in comparison, can buy you 6 or 7 lollies, or a 600 ml coke.
here in australia, foods and day to day living is cheap, but we are the 3rd (or 2nd) highest taxed nation in the world, so theres a catch there.
to get into a JMQ concert would cost $80, so it is cheap here.
and our standards would be a bit above the UK (sorry). i am one of the "richer" types of Adelaide, but it is easy to see that things are cheaper here than everywhere else. well, most things.
The average income of the full-time worker here is $36000 (roughly, accurate figure is +-$500), and cars are very cheap here too (and very fast).
but seeing that the euro-AUD conversion rate is so good now (for you guys anyway), i thoroughly reccomend a holiday here. be damn cheap for you guys and very enthralling  .
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| i think people who are going to find it difficult should be helped out |
no. if they can't afford a 99euc download, then they should sell their modem. |
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~DeLiRiUm~
Joined: 09 Apr 2004
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Location: Ottawa, Canada
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 15:21 |
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1 euro = $1.63 canadian dollars. you can buy either a really good chocolate bar or a crappy hamburger from mcdonalds or some fast food places
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fUnK[iLo]
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Location: La Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 17:11 |
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WOW! 1 EUR is the same as 3.85 argentinian pesos. So with an EUR here, you can buy 30 or more lollipops  .
PietroChocko: About selling my modem , first of all my dad studied for 5 years at university (being 50 years old) just for me and my brother to have Internet Connection and for all the family to live a bit better, so I'd never do that. Besides, my modem is not mine, it's Telefonica's, who provides my Internet Connection, so I can't.
Well, about a Jamiroquai concert, it's really expensive here. Of course if the concert is in a stadium is more expensive, but I think the first row (my dream  ) costs more or less 500 pesos (that is 130 euros), and half of our monthly income. That is just the concert ticket, but as I don't live in Buenos Aires I also have to buy the bus tickets (one to go from Tandil to Buenos Aires and another to come back from Buenos Aires to Tandil), and that would be about 30 pesos each. So that would be another 60 pesos = 15.60 EUR). But, I can't go on my own, because in Buenos Aires I have to stay at a hotel and I'm only 15 so my dad for example should come with me, so those 60 pesos turns into 120 pesos (31.20 EUR). Besides I need to pay the hotel. That would be (an average hotel of course, not a very expensive one) 50 pesos (2 days = 100 pesos = 26 EUR). And beyond all that I must take money there (you know, food, etc), so another 100 pesos (26 EUR) So let's see how much money I need... 187.2 EUR or 746.72 pesos. An impossible thing for me to afford. . Even if I were to the last rows, it would be impossible.
And I can't forget Dynamite  . It will be more or less 30 pesos (7.80 EUR), because Jamiroquai's cds are very expensive.
I don't know how much have you work to be able to afford all this. I mean, I started to save in 2002, when I started liking the band. My parents give us 5 pesos each month (that is 1.30 EUR), but I also had to buy the original copies of Jamiroquai's cds. You'll kill me for this, I know, but I got the pirate copies of Jamiroquai before I could afford the original ones. Thank God I could buy the two original cds I still had in their pirate copies last month (TROTSC and TWM). they cost 52.80 pesos (13.70 EUR), which is more expensive than the electricity bill  .
Well, that's the value EUR has on Argentina. All I can say is that if any you have EUR and come here to live, you'll undoubtely be between the richest people here.
That's why I think it would be stupid to buy "Feels Just Like It should", I'll wait until the new album comes, or until I see it on the TV or listen to it on the radio. I mean, it wouldn't be stupid, but unnecessary. At least for me. I don't have much money right now, just enough to buy Dynamite and 20 more pesos (5.20 EUR, which is nothing, but I'd prefer to save it for the tour). Perhaps my parents and my granny will give me some money for my birthday, but I don't think so, I need clothes, the same as my brother (I'm not saying I live naked, it's just we'll need more sweaters and other clothes for this winter). I bet they'll give me clothes as a present. But I can't complain, I need them!
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FRA
Jamily Coach & Correspondent
Joined: 07 Aug 2004
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Location: London don
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 17:32 |
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In Italy with 1 euro u can take little things: one coffee, one coke (but in the supermarket), some chips and 1 lollipop >it costs about € 0,75.
In my country the life cost is very high: all is too expensive and the introduction of the unique value has contributed to make it higher and higher:
For example: if i want to go to the cinema, the ticket is € 7,50!!!! Too much, c'mon; the same for 1 pizza: the simpler is Margherita and its price is 5,50 euro!
The discopub: 25 or 30 euro saturday nite, with no consumation; so if u want to dirnk something u need 8 or 10 euros for a cocktail.
Clothing: no comment, i buy on Ebay: more convenient.
CD: € 19,50
20 cigarettes( mine - camel lights) > E 3,60
Tickets for gigs (not only for JMQ) about € 35,00
The salary is more or less about € 2.000,00 but it's very little to face off all the necessities......
damn EURO 
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CosmicMouse
Jamirotalk mum
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Location: Germany
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 19:54 |
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Good that I opend this topic - now I understand much better your situation, Flor!  And you may understand now my reaction.
Interesting people, keep it up! 
Mouse
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fUnK[iLo]
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Location: La Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 20:39 |
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| CosmicMouse wrote: |
| Good that I opend this topic - now I understand much better your situation, Flor! And you may understand now my reaction. |
Oh, God Meike! I never missunderstood you  , I know exactly what you meant when you said that, it's ok 
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Jamirobeto
Joined: 30 Oct 2004
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Location: Lima, Peru
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| Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 23:55 |
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Here in Peru the situation goes like this:
1 Euro is about 4,3 soles... with that you can buy a 3 liter bottle of Coca Cola or 1 liter of gasoline for example. The thing is... ppl will never pay 1 euro for a song... a pirate DVD here is 1 euro aswell (that's what Live in Verona cost me)... official products can't fight this. An original Cd may cost up to 15 euro while a pirate one is 0.50 euro.
There's another problem... there's no monthly average income in a family here... the range is very wide... you have families that survive with 70 Euro monthly... you have a middle class family that will get by with 1600 Euro (like my family)... and rich ppl that should have an income of 3000+ Euro.
That's why I rely entirely in pirate copies and internet downloads. 15 Euro is way too much for me as my parents have to pay for uni and also for my sister's school which are expensive... education comes first they say and I agree with that. Whenever I ask for money that would be for transport, food or to buy chords for my guitar. Other expenses are rare. Despite all this I have managed to acquire 2 jmq original cds. Anyway, if they get to come here I will surely give up other things to go and pay a 70 Euro ticket.
Regarding "Feels just like it should" I will expect someone can send it to me or something cause my father will never lend me his credit card.
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FunkEducation
Joined: 15 Jul 2004
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Location: Maracay, Venezuela
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 00:35 |
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we are a third world country (Venezuela)
what i want to say with this?
all the things are very expensive and we hav to work a lot to get it....
for example, one dollar (American) is 2300 Bolivares, in exchange....
so, all the things are very costable!!!
at least dad hav his own company, and we earn a lot of money by year.... but our president is trying to strike down all the venezuelan industry... and dad has a lot of money hided in.... hehehehe in case of a problem in our shit country....
i want to add, that our president is doing a lot of weird things... for example, he's buying the argentinean debt... 500 million dollars... heheh and we hav kids, people dying everyday on the streets... and he's travelling around the world throwing to the air all oir money... that's our idiot president...
perhaps in a few months i can't be saying this... we've got a new content law.... it means that we can't talk about the government... and if they catch us... we will be in jail... the content law is for TV and radio... in few moments it will be for us... we are not living well.... chavez wants to make the other countries see that we are OK, but we are falling down to the center of the earth, that's why dad and mom are very scared about me and my brothers.... they've made their lives, but we are still starting ours... it's difficult to be living here... if a war happen here, i will be taken to do military service, and you know what it means... we are in a terrible situation....
chavez don't want us with passports, he doesn't want us out of venezuela, that's why it's very difficult to get a passport, or you have to pay a lot of money to get it... when the passport is a right you have... even, you have to wait two or three years if you were chosen in the list...
and our coin does cos anything... hehehe our coin or money (don't know how to call it) is very devaluated... our country costs nothing...
all i say is: I WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE!!!
heheheheheheh
what makes me sad is that venezuela is a beautiful country...
and i want to make my life here... but in this moments is very difficult that...
hope my explanation will help you to understand how the third world countries lives... it's not easy... we are the toys of the great nations as USA, or the UK...
Bye guys!
see you...
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fUnK[iLo]
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Location: La Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 01:13 |
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Ed, your story is so sad, I'm almost in tears . I also live in a third world country, but at least we have no war here. I thought Venezuela was better than Argentina economically and socially but now I see that what we're taught at school and what the TV shows us is not the truth.
I would like the people who ask 1 EUR for Feels Just Like It Should (SONY, Jay, or whoever it is) read this. It's so stupid! I know for most europeans 1 EUR is not much money, but not only europeans are Jamirofans.
Perhaps most of you JamiroTalkers don't pay to much attention this, but for example they go to many cities in Spain (just to give an example) every single tour, while they didn't come to Latin America in the AFO tour. Besides, when they come to Latin America they don't come to every single country here. They just come to what they think are the most important countries here namely Argentina, Chile, Brazil and Mexico (Jay wanted to come to this 4 countries in the AFO tour, but we had a huge economical crisis here so they skipped our continent). And what about Peru, Venezuela, Colombia and the rest of the Latin American countries? I'm not saying that they have to come to the Isla de Pascua for example, but these 4 countries aren't enough.
That's so unfair! We're in the thirld world and the fans from that countries have to travel to Argentina, Brazil, Chile or Mexico to see the band. I've already explain the problems that seeing Jamiroquai brings to me and I'm argentinian, so think about Ed and Jamirobeto for example. This is a bit Offtopic, but it has to do to with one of Meike's questions, about how difficult is to go and see Jamiroquai live.
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jgrizz
Joined: 12 Jan 2005
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Location: Claremont/Southern California/USA
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| Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 16:49 |
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Hello Jamirotalkers:
Well in the USA as you probably already know, the econonmic situation.
But, I will tell you that there is a wide variety of classes here, too.
on average a family brings in $2000 a month.
but the rent is really high here, too, like it's $1000 for a nice 1 Bdrm apart.
But, in California there is a big difference all around the state,
Northern California out of the "big" cities, rent is cheap. $700 for a 2 Bdrm.
These are rural areas, like Humboldt County, where I lived for 6yrs, before moving to LA.
There are tons of people living on poverty wages. And gas is really exspensive there too. $2.50 a gallon. (the highest in the country)
Then there is the flip-flop of that down by the beaches of Southern California like Newport Beach, where houses go for Millions of dollars.
So, there is a big span of classes and wages here.
For the whole state the minimum wages is still only $6.75 an hour!!!!!
Since 2002.
Not really anyone can live on that, with the rent prices being so high. |
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FunkEducation
Joined: 15 Jul 2004
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Location: Maracay, Venezuela
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 01:06 |
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but compared with latinamerican, you're living in a paradise jgrizz.
think about it... we hav people dying everyday here... in the states the things are different, even with their government...
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