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alyd
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Ticket prices - an outrage!
Well you can see what I think;
First tour I won't be attending, can't believe people are just sucking this down cheerfully. Record companies and promoters are frikkin vampires - plus ca change but come on, there's supposed to be a recession.
Jay Kay, before he was famous, would object to this big time - really angry  |
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Jamalgerie
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 01:35 |
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Totally agree with you,they are too pricey.However £40-£50 is probably about the going rate for attending concerts these days. Because it is Jamiroquai, and I have not been to a single concert, since I saw them in Cardiff in 2005,I am willing to pay.They are not touring as many cities as they usually do, so their promoters will want to squeeze as much money from us as they can |
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alyd
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 03:10 |
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Well you see I attend a lot of concerts and gigs and this is not the going rate - this is top end.
I saw Jeff Beck in October and got three tickets for the price they're asking for two for Jamiroquai. That was also in Birmingham Symphony Hall which has the best acoustics in Europe and we were four rows from the front.
Likewise last time Jamiroquai toured, it was £33 a head for the Dynamite show at the NEC, same kind of price as this year for Jeff Beck - a five year gap and a new record company does not make this ok, imho.
It's not just the O2 either, these Jamiroquai prices are all high for all the UK shows I clicked on so it's being placed high for the act not one particular venue - otherwise I'd travel to another UK venue to get round it but they're all doing it.
I hope it's just the label and the promoter and the band have nothing to do with this.
I've got another high profile gig coming up at the Royal Festival Hall, £25 a head. It's not that I won't pay, it's that I'm not a mug, I go to a lot of stuff and can't afford to be cleaned out by Jamiroquai when the money will go much further on other events of equal or greater calibre.
I already inflict this pop act on friends who aren't 100% into it on the basis that they're a good live act by anyone's standards and people have a good time when they come along but this is indefensible and for the first time I'm beginning to think my years of support have come to an end now if it's gonna be a joke getting tickets for people.
Really not happy with this at all, it's fan abuse and I wish more people cared - I was so hoping to see a thread here (or anywhere) already about this but maybe I'm out of step with the fans  |
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Sandriche
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Jamiroquai are also a pretty big band...they now have a hornsection which we are all really happy about right?
think of travel expenses and accomodation for all the people involved..plus wages for an extra 60 people who are included in the tourwork (soundguys etc...)
also it seems ticketprices vary between locations too...It actually costs a lot to hire a hall for a night..plus expenses for security/ambulances, people working that day,then of course the band..and then the promoters of course also want to have something left for them otherwise there was no sense in doing it...
yes it´s a lot of money...but yeah if you think about what you can get for 60 bucks these days.. in comparison it doesn´t seem that much to me..
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alyd
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 06:51 |
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Well that's your opinion but I've given examples of other acts who manage it for less. Just because you like what they do doesn't make it worth the money - it's not a donation of appreciation, it's a ticket and it's being used as a way to bleed the audience white.
Like I say it's a major hike over the last tour, it's a try-on and it seems to be working, sadly, as it ain't ever gonna go down after this precedent is set - wish more people wouldn't buy in and then maybe they might think twice - they being the record company and the promoters, I'm loathed to blame this on the band themselves without evidence. |
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Sandriche
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of course it´s MY opinion..
I just try to understand why they would be more expensive than other big acts..
so this jeff beck..how many people were on stage? did he have a whole band with him?
I went to a band competition ( no name bands) here a few weeks ago and the ticket price was 25 bucks! insane...( and the bands played didnt´even get any money of it)
"Just because you like what they do doesn't make it worth the money "
well...
Supply and demand!
that is how business works! A product is only that much worth as people are willing to pay.there is not really another measurement.
anyway it´s your right to be upset. I am not trying to talk you out of it..
it´s just how I see it.
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FunkyDonkey
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:49 |
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One thing I can't understand is this way to let one site/some sites have the presale of tickets, there's not ONE offical point where you can buy tickets, it's all offloaded to those vampires that are putting on top of the ticket cost some insane margin fees (what is a transactional fee ???)...
Im really disappointed, wanted to make London but can't afford 120 quids for me and wife EACH (and you have to add the travel costs)....that's insane
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:57 |
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I totally agree with you alyd
Jamalgerie makes a good point saying that it is because we haven't seen them live in a few years that we're willing to pay that amount of money. It is my case too. But those prices are just unacceptable. I don't think it has to do with having a hornsection back, but mainly with 1) the need to squeeze the fans since albums don't sell as good as 10 years ago, and partly 2) with...
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| One thing I can't understand is this way to let one site/some sites have the presale of tickets, there's not ONE offical point where you can buy tickets, it's all offloaded to those vampires that are putting on top of the ticket cost some insane margin fees (what is a transactional fee ???)... |
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Sandriche
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 13:51 |
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120 IS insane 
i thought we are talking about 60...
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peggy
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| Sandriche wrote: |
of course it´s MY opinion..
I just try to understand why they would be more expensive than other big acts..
so this jeff beck..how many people were on stage? did he have a whole band with him?
I went to a band competition ( no name bands) here a few weeks ago and the ticket price was 25 bucks! insane...( and the bands played didnt´even get any money of it)
"Just because you like what they do doesn't make it worth the money "
well...
Supply and demand!
that is how business works! A product is only that much worth as people are willing to pay.there is not really another measurement.
anyway it´s your right to be upset. I am not trying to talk you out of it..
it´s just how I see it. |
First, don't get me wrong, I will pay for a ticket. But as it comes to lot's off members in a group, look at Incognito, there are more band members and their concert prices are not that high. So I think it's just the promotor and venues who decide it.
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Seb
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 14:25 |
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Maybe there is two factors :
-CDs sells nowadays are ridiculous; so labels are trying to "earn back" a part of this "loss" into tickets prices.
-Jamiroquai is not as popular as "artists" like Black eyed peas, Rihanna etc So insurance company/promoter are maybe not confident in their ability to fill 10s of huge arena like 10/15 years ago.
Maybe it can explain why there is less dates than previous tours, and why tickets are more expensive.
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alyd
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 19:12 |
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| Seb wrote: |
Maybe there is two factors :
-CDs sells nowadays are ridiculous; so labels are trying to "earn back" a part of this "loss" into tickets prices.
-Jamiroquai is not as popular as "artists" like Black eyed peas, Rihanna etc So insurance company/promoter are maybe not confident in their ability to fill 10s of huge arena like 10/15 years ago.
Maybe it can explain why there is less dates than previous tours, and why tickets are more expensive. |
That's my feeling - I'd even go so far as to say this was the thinking behind the latest album cover, it's all about getting people to pay for these tickets.
Glad I'm not alone here and others see what's happening  |
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dannyev
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 20:41 |
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I am also very displeased at the price of these tickets! Surely a combination of inflation and a horn section doesn't amount to £20+ more for a ticket than the last tour in the same kind of venues? Really not good 
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Gonza-Arg
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 01:22 |
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are you guys sure they (jay kay/the band) set those prices? I think that prices are set by the company that hires the band. The band charges an exact amount on money to perform. the company pays, and then that company who hired them sets the price for the tickets.
I think that's how it works. Correct me if I'm wrong  .
On the other hand, the band could set some kind of "price limit" before signing any concert contract/agreement. then the company who sells the tickets wouldn't be able set those irrational prices... |
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alyd
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| Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 05:44 |
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| Gonza-Arg wrote: |
are you guys sure they (jay kay/the band) set those prices? I think that prices are set by the company that hires the band. The band charges an exact amount on money to perform. the company pays, and then that company who hired them sets the price for the tickets.
I think that's how it works. Correct me if I'm wrong .
On the other hand, the band could set some kind of "price limit" before signing any concert contract/agreement. then the company who sells the tickets wouldn't be able set those irrational prices... |
I've been stressing that I don't think it's the band - I and others are levelling criticism squarely at the record company and the promoters. There was a suggestion about the horn section but I and others doubt that's anything to do with it.
Universal want a return on their investment, simple as. The album has done well, ticket prices could easily be half what they're asking now (as per the last tour) and I am not playing this price hike game - even for Jamiroquai just because the label want the same return as if the album was a worldwide #1. They (the companies) can shove it, it's totally abusive of the fans and the band, especially in a recession.
And as I said before I fear this is it now, once the level has been set this high, I just so wish people hadn't bought into this and maybe change would have occurred but as is they've got away with it and are laughing all the way to the bank that they can squeeze this level of revenue from the band
The band wouldn't starve if we paid £33 a ticket - fact (evidence: Dynamite tour). And I would have gladly paid for three tickets at that price as it would be cheaper than two tickets at the current price level - as is they're not getting a penny and I'm disgusted.
These recent small gigs just make me long for the days these guys were just a band, not a Funky McBand with extra fries and a Coke |
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