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High Times
Joined: 25 Oct 2004
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thanks for White Knuckle Ride
hi
i wanted to thank the band for music of White Knuckle Ride.
i feel this track became my favourite jamiroquai song and
i want to thank the band for this cool music. for me this track is not commercial song, this is great music, and this is really amazing music.
interesting that i didnt get it when heard for the first time,
i thought, what is it, its not music its one more mainstream bubble gum.
i even didnt listen it to the end i thought its boring.
but the second time i heard it in BBC show, in headphones,
i found that the song is amazing.
Its great that Jay is doing music that he really feels these days.
the thing is it doesnt matter what style it is,
important thing is that music should be amazing.
for me jamiroquai wasnt acid jazz band,
they were just doing amazing music.
listen for example to Half The Man - theres no style,
but music is so special.
to tell the truth, i still dont get track Rock Dust Light Star so far.
but White Knuckle Ride is my favourite band's song now,
or at least one of the favourite songs.
thanks, guys for trying and doing good music! |
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msammon
Joined: 23 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 15:27 |
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Well said. |
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Rita
Joined: 29 Dec 2008
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Location: Portugal
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 21:12 |
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so true! the track IS great...it's jamiroquai
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Dye
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Joined: 16 Nov 2003
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Location: Planet Home; Buenos Aires, Argentina
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 21:20 |
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While I like the track, and I don't think is the best they've made, what I'm truly grateful for is that is one of the few current bands who is making quality music, and it's not garbage beats on top of each other. |
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iranterres
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Location: Brasil
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 02:00 |
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Your post dye was just perfect for this topic.
And complementing you Dye, it's annoying to see these posts above because everything is about over enthusiastic behavior, nothing else. While we accept their new directions in music, we also must be aware that they're not safe from making crap music as well. RDLS is not a brilliant song, this one is not either, but either are bad songs, but they're still not the quality of music i'm used to see coming from them. We just can't accept everything they do and say it's awesome or the best stuff, give me a break... 
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Sandriche
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 02:42 |
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HIGH TIMES!!! how have you been great to see u back! I think we all were waiting and graving for something new! really dig it too.
iranterres
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| We just can't accept everything they do |
WHAT???? 
They are not making music for you. it´s up to you to like it or not. they will not ADJUST to what a few people like because it´s just not possible..
A band is a bunch of people coming together and combining their sounds...
I sometimes get the feeling people still expect they gonna sound like int 1993.
welcome to 2010. different bandmembers,different age!, different era!
even if they forced themselves to make another Space cowboy cd..really whats the point? they did that already.and I dont´think they would get any recognition except from a few forum members on the boards saying hooray.
there is heaps of music out there from BACK IN THE TIME! why waiting for jamiroquai to repeat themselves?
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Gonza-Arg
Joined: 27 Mar 2005
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Location: Argentina
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 02:49 |
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| Sandriche wrote: |
| They are not making music for you. it´s up to you to like it or not. they will not ADJUST to what a few people like because it´s just not possible.. |
| Sandriche wrote: |
| even if they forced themselves to make another Space cowboy cd..really whats the point? they did that already. |
Exactly! |
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iranterres
Joined: 02 Apr 2008
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Location: Brasil
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 04:53 |
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| Sandriche wrote: |
HIGH TIMES!!! how have you been great to see u back! I think we all were waiting and graving for something new! really dig it too.
iranterres
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| We just can't accept everything they do |
WHAT????
They are not making music for you. it´s up to you to like it or not. they will not ADJUST to what a few people like because it´s just not possible..
A band is a bunch of people coming together and combining their sounds...
I sometimes get the feeling people still expect they gonna sound like int 1993.
welcome to 2010. different bandmembers,different age!, different era!
even if they forced themselves to make another Space cowboy cd..really whats the point? they did that already.and I dont´think they would get any recognition except from a few forum members on the boards saying hooray.
there is heaps of music out there from BACK IN THE TIME! why waiting for jamiroquai to repeat themselves? |
Sandriche it's not the first time i see you misquoting me. I don't like it.
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| We just can't accept everything they do and say it's awesome or the best stuff, give me a break... |
That's the entire sentence...
That's how it goes. And yeah, like it or not, we just can't accept everything they do and say it's awesome and marvelous because sometimes it won't be. Everybody has a taste and they can't please anyone. They haven't pleased me this time, they may please me in the album. Who knows? The same goes for you. Now if you think that everything else they will produce in the future will be great, that's called positivity, but if let's be realistic, using your words... Welcome to 2010, different bandmembers, different age, different era, and so what? Beatles reinvented theirselves, as did the Rolling Stones, and some others, but how? Being innovative, keeping the high standards. People may throw crap saying that "the record industry and the way music was made was different" that's plain bullshit. Back then was much harder to gather audience, many were seen as corrupters or artists lacking morale, but were true geniuses. Back then in the 90's that was how i saw Jamiroquai, a rare jewel. They were successful not due the way the industry was back then. And their music style was no new at the time, so you tell me...
It was simply the way THEY did it. They embraced a cause and worked their music in a way that nobody else did and ended being one of the highest standards of the 90's. I saw them with much more potential back that time than today. Yeah, the band has changed, new bandmembers new music style but in the end (like it or not) it was and it IS Jay's impetus behind it.
And I will not fall into it but pretty much, nobody expects the band to repeat theirselves, and that's not gonna happen, but i do think and as of many of us do as well, it's to expect more quality. Personaly i think this new album will be very well crafted, and i pray that WKR isn't in the likes of the album, that song is a misconcept. But I SEE the band wants to hit the mainstream, and for it, or you try the formula they had back then, or you just fall into that shallow 3 minute pop music that we see in the airplay today.
And seriously, they make music for me, they make music for you. I buy their music if i want, you too. If i don't like it, i just won't do it, and you?. And while we discuss it here, Jay is receiving some fat paycheck at his buckinghamshire
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msammon
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 05:31 |
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how many of you would be upset if jamiroquai became a born again pop sensation. would you be ashamed to say you like them? would you be jealous that others do not know the band the way you know them?
drop it already. we have all these arguments. just like the band the same reason you did when you first heard them. why do we always have to say "i first heard them back in ..", what does this prove? |
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funk4
Joined: 25 Aug 2010
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Location: Antwerp, Belgium
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 09:24 |
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| msammon wrote: |
how many of you would be upset if jamiroquai became a born again pop sensation. would you be ashamed to say you like them? would you be jealous that others do not know the band the way you know them?
drop it already. we have all these arguments. just like the band the same reason you did when you first heard them. why do we always have to say "i first heard them back in ..", what does this prove? |
I just think it's a shame for the real qualities of the band that the broad audience only knows Jamiroquai as that "pop singer who had some nice songs", and not as the great funkband that they truely are. But that "pop-image" was created by the band (or Jay) itself since 2000. |
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almatri
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:04 |
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Jay Kay just doesn't dig Acid jazz as much as the majority of the people does here, that's it. He loves rock, disco, jazz, electro etc... So that's what you'll hear on his albums. And when you listen to their live shows, there still is the acid jazz influence in some songs, so it's cool to me. Especially since the former bandmembers, apart from Nick Van Gelder, stopped producing those kind of tracks after leaving the band. Hell, if Jamiroquai was playing the kind of songs that Toby has been producing, people would be calling for their heads !
You didn't like RDLS and WKR, that's cool. But how can you say that it's a misconcept ? Did you hear the whole album ? I doubt it, so discrediting the whole work of a band because you don't like less than 25% of the finished product, that's just... weird ? |
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Sandriche
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 13:51 |
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iranterres....sorry for misquoting you ..but how does the rest of the sentence change your overall statement? maybe i misunderstood you.
I still don´t know what you want. I dont´understand the " accept"-part. Maybe it´s a translation misunderstanding?
I am the last person on earth who will say something like .".oh you HAVE TO like this song." I am very aware not everybody likes every song.
Hey, if you don´t like it, thats totally fine.
I am also aware that many fans who know the band since their beginning are in general also acid jazz/funk lovers...
What frustrates me constantly is that people claim THEIR favourite music style to be the only music that has QUALITY or is " GOOD MUSIC"...
no matter if jazz or classic , funk , rock, hip hop...
Music is so diverse as people are.
Maybe I am getting misunderstood here or read too much into your post.( and also posts from other users) But all this frustration and discussion about a more commercial sound...geez...
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| And yeah, like it or not, we just can't accept everything they do and say it's awesome and marvelous because sometimes it won't be. |
I know i repeat myself but I think we will have to accept whatever they will do but I agree on the point that u don´t have to say it´s great ( in the case you don´t like it)
BUT!!
The people who commented positive on the new song did so because they REALLY LIKED IT.
Like me..I really like it.
and so does High Times..
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it's annoying to see these posts above because everything is about over enthusiastic behavior, nothing else. |
wow.
somebody takes the time to write a whole post and share their excitement and you tell them they are annoying?
I could feel insulted right now.
But enough. It´s all good hey?
p.s please let me know where elseI misquoted you that we can clarify the subject. It was for sure not my intention.
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Rita
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 17:54 |
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| msammon wrote: |
how many of you would be upset if jamiroquai became a born again pop sensation. would you be ashamed to say you like them? would you be jealous that others do not know the band the way you know them?
drop it already. we have all these arguments. just like the band the same reason you did when you first heard them. why do we always have to say "i first heard them back in ..", what does this prove? |
I just think it's a shame for the real qualities of the band that the broad audience only knows Jamiroquai as that "pop singer who had some nice songs", and not as the great funkband that they truely are. But that "pop-image" was created by the band (or Jay) itself since 2000. |
as Jay once said "it's a natural evolution". times change and it was predictable that one day their sonority would be more pop. which doesn't mean the songs are worse. plus, i don't think they abandoned the funky style at all...
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High Times
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 18:54 |
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hi Sandriche !  Nice to see you too! 
all these days i wanted to listen to this song again and again, so i
just wanted to thank the band for trying to do something special. |
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Jay_F
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 22:28 |
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nice post High Times, it's indeed a badass song! this song fits a part of my life. musical & lyrical just perfect..it became one of my fav. already
and amen Sandy!
the band takes adventures, explores, and enjoy what they do. whenever u can see them on stage, they sweat the jam out of it, they love the work they do. personally i understand what they do, life is a long journey, and many experiences are on the road, just like Jamiroquai, just like Jay Kay, just like all of us are on a personal road of experiences that gives variety in the life that's been livin, yet, what is behind is still in the mind, speakin about jmq then, u peeps all seen how "jamiroquai is back" performances have been? well, it's the living experience road of jamiroquai, but it goes furter on it's journey, some people will like it, some not, but it's the way they want, the way they enjoy, the way they love, a journey of life, composed by the magic of the heart and soul.
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