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Does Jay REALLY care for the environment/poorer people?
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gabik



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 07:32    Reply with quote


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he just doesnt care. he doesnt lead by example. he leads by example when it comes to owning fast cars and driving fast in them, but not with the environment


Sorry Pietro !
But if you so desperately need someone who "leads you by example", maybe you shouldn´t chose a cocain addict.
By saying that I just want to make one thing clear : Jay has never had the ambition to play a " role model " for kids like you.
Or why do you think he smokes like mad, drinks like a cow and speaks of his cocain habit publicly ?
Do you really think Jay wants to tell us : " Hey kids! All you have to do is smoke, boose and snort in order to be happy! " ???
I don´t think so .
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PietroChocko



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:25    Reply with quote


gabik wrote:
Jay has never had the ambition to play a " role model " for kids like you.


heehee. that sounds so demeaning but too true Razz.

gabik, i'm not talking about smoking like a chimney...i dont mean "leading by example" in that.

i mean in saving forests, saving the whales, seals, oil, etc.

like i said in the opening post, he urges people to donate to greenpeace n oxfam etc.... but you don't hear about his donations.

i only just heard from miss sparkles that he has donated to greenpeace.

gabik wrote:
Or why do you think he smokes like mad, drinks like a cow and speaks of his cocain habit publicly ?
Do you really think Jay wants to tell us : " Hey kids! All you have to do is smoke, boose and snort in order to be happy! " ???


i dunno. because he is an idiot? because he is a walking case that marijuana ruins your brain???

jay complains that no-one followed him in donating. of course not!!! when he did become really big (ie TWM days), he didn't keep talking about the environment... he started yanking his chain over his cars/girls/houses.

what happened?? he turned from a street kid into a multi-million dollar popstar within 6 years.

if any bum on the street became a millionaire almost overnight, it'd get to their head!!!!!!!!!!

That's what happened to Jason!
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mtey



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:35    Reply with quote


PietroChocko wrote:

i only just heard from miss sparkles that he has donated to greenpeace.

gabik wrote:
Or why do you think he smokes like mad, drinks like a cow and speaks of his cocain habit publicly ?
Do you really think Jay wants to tell us : " Hey kids! All you have to do is smoke, boose and snort in order to be happy! " ???



It's well known fact that he donated (and record company of course too) don't know how many percents (something like 10) from each sold Emergency On Planet Earth album.
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PietroChocko



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:44    Reply with quote


mtey wrote:
...(and record company of course too) don't know how many percents (something like 10)...


what the...? sony giving money to a worthy cause??? that isnt supposed to happen!
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mtey



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:55    Reply with quote


I don't know how they split those percents but Sony had to give up some money too right?

I hope this isn't just a myth, I heard it quite few times. And if I remember right, something is mentioned in EOPE album credits.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:58    Reply with quote


I remember that 7% of merchandise profits of his own clothing lable (orenda?!) was donated to greenpeace.
I have read it several times, too, mtey.

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Belle de Jour



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2005 22:12    Reply with quote


I guess he just became too rich..in the 90's all his songs where about the environment, racism, poverty....now it's all about love and fast cars. But the music is still damn good... Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 12:09    Reply with quote


i think everyone is missing the point yeah jamrioquai and jay were a political type of band and jay does contradict him self now but he is just one guy he did his part with the 7% of profits going to green peace and all that jazz but in hearign this we cant just sit back and go ohh very nice jay can do all the work we ourselves have to fight the power but no body did so they just gave up and started doing disco and stuff in the long run it isnt up to jamiroquai its up to you! get out there clean your streets donate to charities sponser a child the ppl we should be sookin at are billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second and how many of you take lotto tickets or scratchies or what ever if all the money that got put into making,distributing and winning the lotto we would of wiped out world hunger all ready jay is right we are too dumb for the band it would of been mentally frustrating pushing sh!t up hill so to speak because thats all it would be fighting a losing battle *peace*
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miss sparkles



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 22:46    Reply with quote


CosmicMouse wrote:
I remember that 7% of merchandise profits of his own clothing lable (orenda?!) was donated to greenpeace.
I have read it several times, too, mtey.

Mouse


Jay has a clothing label?!
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PietroChocko



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 00:24    Reply with quote


todd_15 wrote:
i think everyone is missing the point yeah jamrioquai and jay were a political type of band and jay does contradict him self now but he is just one guy he did his part with the 7% of profits going to green peace and all that jazz but in hearign this we cant just sit back and go ohh very nice jay can do all the work we ourselves have to fight the power but no body did so they just gave up and started doing disco and stuff in the long run it isnt up to jamiroquai its up to you! get out there clean your streets donate to charities sponser a child the ppl we should be sookin at are billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second and how many of you take lotto tickets or scratchies or what ever if all the money that got put into making,distributing and winning the lotto we would of wiped out world hunger all ready jay is right we are too dumb for the band it would of been mentally frustrating pushing sh!t up hill so to speak because thats all it would be fighting a losing battle *peace*


that is the longest sentence i have ever seen, and it has the worst grammar ever.

todd_15 wrote:
...billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second ...


that is one of the most misinformed statements ever.

bill gates donates substantially. over the years, he has donated AT LEAST 25% of his net assets to greenpeace and oxfam ALONE, and out of his own pocket,and he recently donated $500 million to the tsunami fund.

he chooses not to go public with what he does, which is a good thing to do.

maybe tood you should be on the back of George W. Bush, who only help when they can get some resources back.

todd_15 wrote:
...and how many of you take lotto tickets or scratchies or what ever if all the money that got put into making,distributing and winning the lotto we would of wiped out world hunger...


well i already do that.

remember todd, it is too easy to moan and whinge about what people aren't, but it is more satisfying by just doing and saying nothing!!!!!!!!!

so go back to school and learn how to type properly Razz and then start planting trees. i already do.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 02:02    Reply with quote


PietroChocko wrote:


todd_15 wrote:
...billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second ...


that is one of the most misinformed statements ever.

bill gates donates substantially. over the years, he has donated AT LEAST 25% of his net assets to greenpeace and oxfam ALONE, and out of his own pocket,and he recently donated $500 million to the tsunami fund.

he chooses not to go public with what he does, which is a good thing to do.


this is the first time i agree with you in something, and i really don't know if i'm right... but your words are correct! that's the true....
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todd_15



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 13:24    Reply with quote


ok i think i was incredabley high when i wrote that Razz
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Snorry



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 19:53    Reply with quote


For God´s sake, he don´t drive all the cars at the same time!

Anyway, he has done more for the enviroment than any of us.


And I hate Bono. He´s an asshole. U2 would be one of the great bands ever if it wern´t for Bono. Don´t compare jay with Bono.
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KrissCross



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 20:00    Reply with quote


I fully agree with (nearly) all above, although what Jay spents his money on is his bussiness...
But about the lyrics: I loved those from EOPE and ROTSC (and also partially those of TWM)!
But look at the lyrics of FJLIS!!! I still think this song rocks, but what Jay is singing now is not what I was waiting for...

Code:
I need a little sexpot full of butt love
I want you, I wanna lick you up and down (feels good)
You said it would feel that good and it does

Code:
I'm coming down and round to taste your
Sugar spice, I want you, you sexy girl
It slips in, it feels good


There are far to much songs with these kind of crappy lyrics!
Where are those brilliant protest songs we used to hear from Jay?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 21:33    Reply with quote


PietroChocko wrote:
todd_15 wrote:
i think everyone is missing the point yeah jamrioquai and jay were a political type of band and jay does contradict him self now but he is just one guy he did his part with the 7% of profits going to green peace and all that jazz but in hearign this we cant just sit back and go ohh very nice jay can do all the work we ourselves have to fight the power but no body did so they just gave up and started doing disco and stuff in the long run it isnt up to jamiroquai its up to you! get out there clean your streets donate to charities sponser a child the ppl we should be sookin at are billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second and how many of you take lotto tickets or scratchies or what ever if all the money that got put into making,distributing and winning the lotto we would of wiped out world hunger all ready jay is right we are too dumb for the band it would of been mentally frustrating pushing sh!t up hill so to speak because thats all it would be fighting a losing battle *peace*


that is the longest sentence i have ever seen, and it has the worst grammar ever.

todd_15 wrote:
...billgates and liek the richest ppl alive why coodnt they just donate 50% of there earning bill gates wood make it again in a second ...


that is one of the most misinformed statements ever.

bill gates donates substantially. over the years, he has donated AT LEAST 25% of his net assets to greenpeace and oxfam ALONE, and out of his own pocket,and he recently donated $500 million to the tsunami fund.

he chooses not to go public with what he does, which is a good thing to do.

maybe tood you should be on the back of George W. Bush, who only help when they can get some resources back.

todd_15 wrote:
...and how many of you take lotto tickets or scratchies or what ever if all the money that got put into making,distributing and winning the lotto we would of wiped out world hunger...


well i already do that.

remember todd, it is too easy to moan and whinge about what people aren't, but it is more satisfying by just doing and saying nothing!!!!!!!!!

so go back to school and learn how to type properly Razz and then start planting trees. i already do.




ahh pietro ur such a mean butt pirate! Razz

argh...
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