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cheeeba lover
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i must dissapoint you that the whole song stinks,and the sample that you heard is the best part.. 
it sounds like britney spears!!!(i never thought i will say this  )
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mtey
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Location: Slovenia
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:11 |
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Interesting reading this topic.
Only thing I'm sure is that this is black day for lot of Jamiroquai fans!
I must say I really expected something else when I was reading about this single. My expectations were big. In that way, I was little disappointed when I first heard it, but only after few listenings, I started to like it! Although it's not something I've been used to hear from Jamiroquai. To know more, I need to hear the rest of the album.
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Serge
Joined: 24 Dec 2002
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:19 |
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@Carcamal: You said it mate, you said it perfectly and that's exactly what I think.
@cheeeba lover: HAHAHahaa... My word... if the rest of it is worse, then we're fcked. Britney Spears - "what has this life become!?!"
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MoonShooter
Joined: 03 Jun 2004
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Location: Scotland, UK
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:25 |
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Great...
THIS is what we were trying to stop happening 4 pages ago.
THIS is why pirate copies are wrong
THIS is why everyone should just stop being so goddamn greedy until something oficial comes out.
If anyone wantes to post highly unconstructive criticism about a band we're all here because we like, then I'm sorry but you shouldn't be here. Do you want the band to fail? No. We've been such good, patient fans for over 3 years, and you want to go and spoil the wait now? I'm really quite upset.
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mörö
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:38 |
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wtf. i just don't get what are u sayin'? you hear a low quality, 14sec. long clip of a new track and u go 'sounds like shit' , 'the worst J track ever' etc. i mean c'mon.
i personally like it a lot. the LP is gonna be wicked, no doubts about that in my mind.
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Carcamal
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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Location: Spain, Culo del Mundo
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:42 |
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| MoonShooter wrote: |
| THIS is why pirate copies are wrong |
even if the track wasn't leaked on purpose, those who bought it on napster are legit users, they pay a subscription, it's not their fault it was leaked
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| THIS is why everyone should just stop being so goddamn greedy until something oficial comes out. |
i beg your pardon sir, I just listened a miserable 14 seconds snippet from a long delayed album, I deserve to die 
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| If anyone wantes to post highly unconstructive criticism about a band we're all here because we like, then I'm sorry but you shouldn't be here. |
oh mister, I thought this was a Discussion Forum . Seems like I'm wrong, I reached the mindless tennybopper jamiroquai fan forum, pardon me 
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| Do you want the band to fail? No. We've been such good, patient fans for over 3 years, and you want to go and spoil the wait now? I'm really quite upset. |
The band will absolutely fail by their own methodes, they don't need no help at this point, enough said.
I'm not, sir, pulling any string to make the band fail miserably. You just talk about Jamiroquai like if it was a new band with no resources, no marketing, no backup from a record company like sony, and with an album that needs every criticism killed because can't live up to the old jamiroquai work by itself.
You know what? TWM needed not fans shutting up others because of the criticism. |
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Serge
Joined: 24 Dec 2002
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 16:47 |
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@Moonshooter: Yess, but you can't stop people giving opinions about a track that we've been waiting for 3+ years.
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| If anyone wantes to post highly unconstructive criticism about a band we're all here because we like, then I'm sorry but you shouldn't be here |
So just because I'm on this board, (and dare I say it, a moderator too) I can't give my opinion of a track? Get real! What about this: http://www.jamirotalk.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1259 Ultimately, we're 'goverened' by our rules, and I don't think I broke any.
Like I said before, I won't mindlessley say "oh yeah I love it" just because its Jamiroquai and then get in line to kiss Jay's hand. Edited by me from a more sexual version
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| wtf. i just don't get what are u sayin'? you hear a low quality, 14sec. long clip of a new track and u go 'sounds like shit' , 'the worst J track ever' etc. i mean c'mon |
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I heard a 14 sec long sample, and I think it sounds shit - I can't put it much more simpler than that.
All this is my opinion only and does not represent anyone/anything and is not mean to cause offence.
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GoodVibeZone
Joined: 16 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 17:36 |
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i can't believe people are slating the album already and all they have to go on is a 14 second clip of FJLIS and the clip of BDC. In my opinion BDC sounds really promising, and at first i thought the end of FJLIS should reminded me of some american pop group. BUT after a few more time of listening to it, i like the guitar rift, which is one thing i like in BDC. They are changing the sound which i think is great. Jay voice sounds a bit weird though, but its growing on me
Plus moonshooter has already mentioned this but i would rather wait until i hear it on the radio or til and official release is made.
Finally i think the whole "Guitar Thing" is cool.... its well funky!!
Cheers
p.s Serge is right, why cant he give his opinion
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CosmicMouse
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 18:51 |
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Isn't it interesting how controversial this discussion is? This song, or even just this little 14 seconds of it devides us fans into two groups: one group is optimistic and is very excited about the track (me included!  ), the other group is pessimistic and dissapointed.
Fact is: This song is really polarizing!
And polarizing things are often very successfull. I don't know it and don't want to make prognoses, but still...
You can have an opinion about the sample, you can decide if you like it or not, even if it's just 14 seconds. It has something to do with the expectations you have had before hearing it, but come on... you really cannot judge if the album (which you still haven't heard) will be a success or not.
You can decide now, that you might like or might not like the new album, you can make your conclusions, but consider, it's really just a few seconds.
I can only speak for myself. I was prepared that the new album will be rocky and funky. My expectations went in the same direction what the title "Dynamite" is pretending and also what I heard in the two samples (BDC and FJLIS). I am not dissapointed, just reassured. And I am optimistic for the rest of the album.
And I am even more optimistic about the live gigs!!!
Mouse
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JamiroFan2000
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Location: The Jamiroquaized States Of America
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 19:08 |
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JamiroFan weighs in....
 Hello again,
 Great to see Brightside come through with the sample ... and I can see that about 50% hate it and 50% love it...what irony . Still, as JK and the bandmembers have said for the past 3 years, they were looking for "new sounds", and this new song would count as a extension of that hope. Still, a bit unfair to judge a song on 14 seconds of hearing, as many of you have pointed out . As for my take on "FJLIS", I liked it, I found absolutely amazing that JK was able to wrap the whole band sound around the root sample of the song, the background sound is the original 'Interlude 2#' that appeared on the UK test pressing of Jam's 2001 album "A Funk Odyssey (There were 3 Interludes on that Test Pressing that remain unreleased of JK fooling around with a vocalizer!). Lyrically, still he see JK fascinated with sex, love and excess....it wouldn't take scientist to figure that JK would NEVER drop those subjects...hehe. Overall, I really liked the new single, though I'm guessing alot of newbie fans are groaning as they read this...give a few more listens, it will grow on you. As for the premise that this song is a watermark on what "Dynamite's" overall sound is headed, after the "FJLIS" & "BDC" samples, maybe he's saving the best songs for the album, and just is showing off the "Dance numbers"...ever thought about that? Anyhoo, I'm glad that a certain minority liked the single.. and I would like to thank Brightside for hooking up the Jamiroquai Community with this rare opportunity, without him, none of the 14 seconds of "FJLIS" exposure would have been possible ! Thanks for listening, for being patient like the great fans you are and Peace!
Sincerely,
JamiroFan2000
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Mers
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 19:27 |
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Well, lets say i'll give my opinion BEFORE listening to the song (i havn't got it yet...)
I'll ask you one question: Will this song make you wanna go less to a JMQ concert?
Cos if it does, i'd be disappointed.....cmon guys, this is what happens after being on expectation for after 3 years....you listen to something, and it's not the best song in the world....why does it put u down that much???
I know, that as fans we can't help but be demanding, but this gets to the point where it becomes ridiculous.....
Many of us are sayingf "why doesn't JMQ tour America?" and all, and then, when a single appears to be more pop-kind, we get all pissed, wanting it to be like ROTSC (i'm not saying it's everyone's case)...well if they are to tour america, expect less Just Another Story kind of music, and more Deeper Underground kinda music...it's inevitable that jamiroquai want to, FIRST OF ALL, gain money and then SECOND, please fans...and it's the same with all bands.....i would admittedly be disappointed if i heard JMQ were abandoning their roots...but definitely not up to giving up on them....what are the other 5 albums for???
cmon guys, let's try and support the band, and not condemn them for doing what they like best....
Well, that's my opinion...
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 19:40 |
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"I found absolutely amazing that JK was able to wrap the whole band sound around the root sample of the song"
(i still don't know how to take a quote from another post)
i think this should be the way Jay does most of his songs, as he doesn't know playing anything nor writing music (i mean on paper) he should write all the songs beggining from riffs with his voice (listen to space cowboy demo)
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enano
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 19:58 |
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for me just a great song....im pretty sure the rest of the song would be exelent ( as well as the rest of the album)..maybe not that funky like we all expect it to be but still an exelent song. i think we cant be so critic with a 14 seconds sample.....come on go and listen 14 seconds of just another story and you will probably hate it....or twenty zero one. just sit and let jamiro do his job.....they are great in it.
thank you for listening
a chilean fan
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 20:15 |
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| My god, they even recycled that stupid Jay interlude to create the bassline...that has to be the most lazy and untalented way to make a song |
i like the interlude and i don't think it's question of untalent or a lazy thing to us eit for a song, in my opinion non of jay's ideas should dissapear, if this bit wa sonly included on the test pressing was like a bonus track of a non finished tune, if jay liked the riff and wanted to do a song with it i think it's cool to include it on next album, or its manifest destiny and scam shit songs for coming from another earlyer versions? i don't think so, it's just that you have heard an early demo before the complete song and we should thank jamiroquai for letting un listening those things, surely some songs in a funk odyssey were from ideas taken from unreleased synkronized tracks, same with unreleased new songs played in concerts, if a song is created by jamiroquai i don't see the reason why it should dissapear after being listened only by sony people who didn't want to put on an album, in my opinion jamiroquai gots lots of tunes like this and i think it should be grea tif they someday release them (with sony or with next jay's label)
who knows.....
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MoonShooter
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 20:43 |
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Geez...I am not trying to say that you can't have an opinion of the sample, I'm saying that saying that it's 'crap' is not an acceptable argument...
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