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funkynic
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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Location: Buenos Aires Funkcity!
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I understand whay you all here say.. hope you understand what Im goin to say...
I don´t think jay has changed his personallity. I do think he has changed his way of living, and that´s obvious. I mean ok he started writting "When you gonna learn" he was this young kid living his dreams just as he had dreamt once, singing about what he believes. We all know he is a low profile person, he doesn´t like having press around him all the time and all that stuff. And now a days he´s much more famous than he was when he first started on this bussinnes, but still he tries to keep his low profile as much as he can. He doesn´t need to appear on tv and say hi Im JK from jamiroquai pleace contribute to save the whales... He does donations, not pretending people to see him doing so, but just for help. For example the guitarrist CARLOS SANTANA appears on discovery channel saying all this stuff about helping greenpeace, but I bet he donates nothing compared to what jay does, appearing on tv does not show that he´s doneting.. hes putting his image on tv for his fans to say oh carlos says it so I´ll do it. So lets not judge him just because we don´t see him.
Why do we have to complain about all the money he has all his cars his mansion? I mean it´s his effort, he deserves it. And By the way... people who work in greenpeace also go to work by car, and when they got to save the whale killing the go on a boat which works whith and engine whichs exaust is direct to the sea....so it´s nonsense saying that......
One track at least per album talking about his beliefs ( when you gonna learn, scam, virtual insanaty, PLanet Home, Twenty zero one, WORLD HE WANTS!!!)
You say he smokes and drinks.... He did this all his life, the thing is that now it´s starting to reflect on his appearence. By the way many doctors somke cigarretes and still they are the ones who tell you what you have to do to have a healthy life... they are conscious about what they do but they can´t help it it´s their habbit, even there´s a post here about canabbis so....
Also,, of course a plus to this is all the travelling all the gig work he does and evrything related to jamiroquai. It´s tough too.
Hope you read what I just said.. I think this will open your minds... I´m not saying you didn´t, it´s just that I read all your posts and analyzed what yall said to make my opinion.
PEACE
Funkynic
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todd_15
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
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Location: byronbay, australia
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| Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 14:14 |
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Well said man,
I agree with everything you say except one thing......
Ok so artist's sometimes do appear on television to aide people to donate to charities but hey! if there donating money and convincing other people to do so just because "carlos santana" or whoever does it well then sweeet! If jay did go on television and did that maybe more people WOULD donate which isnt a bad thing! ( we are not certain if jay actually does give more then say carlos santana so maybe lets not praise him TOO much)
But other then that man good post i like oyur thoughts and it was very well said
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fUnK[iLo]
Joined: 05 Feb 2005
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Location: La Plata, Buenos Aires, Argentina
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| Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 16:31 |
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I think that if Jay went to some TV programme and said something like:"I donated 100.000 pounds to Friends Of The Earth. Please help me to help the world" or something like that, people would go: "look who's talking? that f*****g bastard with his garages full of ferraris and other luxury cars! What a hypocrite".
Jay is not loved by the masses, and we know that. It would be the same for them if Jay advertised his donations or not. Jay's always wrong for them, anyway. But I really think he has done, and does donations to many organisations like Greenpeace (I've read that!). It's not the same with Carlos Santana or Bono, because they're know as great musicians, so if the advertise their donations they're seeing like gods or something like that (many friends of mine spent hour discussing if Bono is human or not, I swear I'm telling the truth). Jay is a great musician too, but for example when I ask my friends about him or Jamiroquai they go: "Oh, Jay's gay, and his music is for gays, too. It sucks!" So I think that's why he donates without any advertising.
And talking about the lyrics, he has evolved as societies do. In the beggining he talked about politicians, corruption and environent, which were the most important problems mankind had. Don't get me wrong, they continue being important now, but there are more important things going on (e.g. wars) and Jay talks about this in songs like Black Crow and World That He Wants. If you want to have economical stability, first you need to have politic stability, and there is not political stability in wars. Besides, when he talks about wars, and political instability, isn't he talking about corruption there? He is, because a war is a consequence of political instability, which is a consequence of corruption.
He has never given up his thoughts, the difference is that now he expresses that according to the times, which aren't the same as back in 1993, and he puts a track of these in an album full of love songs or songs about his cars, because that's the way he gain more fans, who, while listening the love songs, will have the surprise of finding that protest song, and start to think about its lyrics.
I'm really sorry about my English, which I know it hasn't been very good as this post was very long, maybe the longest I've ever written, but I hope you'll understand it's meaning 
May the funk be with you
fUnK[iLo]
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PietroChocko
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 05:26 |
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you're right on the money Flor. go girl go. |
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FunkEducation
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| Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 23:16 |
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well said Flor!
i think he can advertise his donations... i know he's the first one with a garage full of flash cars... but a well done advertsiment can make the things different... there are a lot of proffesionals out there.... by the other hand, he doesn't need to advertise nothing... hehehe
bill gates spend a lot of money by year in donations, and there's no advertisement out on tv or radio... nothing...
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PietroChocko
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 01:49 |
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| FunkEducation wrote: |
| bill gates spend a lot of money by year in donations, and there's no advertisement out on tv or radio... nothing... |
too right.
how it works for William Gates is that when someone bad-mouths him saying "WinXP is crap" and that "he has more money than everyone else and he doesnt even help the poor", then someone educated says that he donates BILLIONS to the aid of the poor/needy. bang: another opinion changed.
with Jay tho, it's a different matter. |
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jay88
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:22 |
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Maybe he's being a trojan horse... infiltrate the public conscience with commercial songs and build up a worldwide following, then BAM! hittem with the political messages!
I get my dose of politics from Rage Against The Machine now... but i have to be in the right mood to listen to that |
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Abou Moslem
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 21:15 |
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Re: Does Jay REALLY care for the environment/poorer people?
[quote="PietroChocko"]he talks about giving to Greenpeace etc., and now he is one of the richest (British) singers ever! would he give any of his earnings? Probably not!
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anyway, greenpeace is such a prosperous enterprise, a big money-washing center.
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monisum
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 21:36 |
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Abou wrote:
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anyway, greenpeace is such a prosperous enterprise, a big money-washing center.
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Sorry, but without money you can do nothing and change nothing in this world. I am glad that Greenpeace is well organized, and can do a lot of senseful campaigns, which cost a lot of money. Although I know that this is in the end only "the drop on the hot stone".
I am a paying member of Greenpeace since 22 years and I think I wasted money on much worse things during all the years. Surely no big organisation is without fault, and bad people who go for their own interests are everywhere.
Sorry for this offtopic reply
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 20:07 |
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From The Music Monitor:
Soul Man by Adam Jackson
Jason Kay
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Finally, I know you've always placed an importance on environmental issues, especially on the first two records. Tell me a little more about that.
I am sick and tired of the way we destroy wildlife. I'm sick of how we abuse animals. There's going to be no wildlife left and then you hear there are five billion people. The governments of the major industrialized nations have got to come together and do something. I don't mean by 2001. Now! We are screwed unless somebody pulls their finger out of their ass and does something drastic. How about we spend less money on bombs, guns and weapons and more on making the world the beautiful garden it could be. There's no reason the natural environment and our habitat can't perfectly mix. I used to screw my head with this all day. It's sickening. I have to lay off it for my own sanity. All I want is a Utopia!
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