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Space Clav
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jay got a wedding ring?  or im wrong? |
In some countries wedding rings are worn on the right hand... I know they to that in Norway. Not sure about the UK though.
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deesh
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 13:26 |
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i just watched it samantha, but i don't know how to upload (and i'm supposed to working..  )
but we need to give a little love to sola for trying to calm his homeboy down...
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I told you people last week Sola was there! How did you not notice him trying to pull Jay away? 
That was the best part of the video!
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Cosmic Pumpkin
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Oh my god... just watched the video. Anyone ever watched Happy Gilmore, when they're playing crazy golf and there's that horrifying clown thing with the scary laugh? Well, one of the dudes laughing at jay sounds JUST like it (1min26).... how horrendous! It's enough to give you nightmares! 
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Deja
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 16:36 |
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Thanks Samantha for the pics!!
they really give a new point of view of the situation, here he look less drunk and more pist off!! and also tender while he talks to cops!
So I still don't appreciate the all think 'cause I'm sure that if he was less stoned or drunk or whatsoever he would have not give a f*** of all thoose............unbelieveble stupid ppl!! ( I've been polite but is not how I call them in my mind when they behave like this)
In Italy often ppl where the engagement ring on the right hand and the marriage ring on the left one, who knows, but I don't see any good influence over him ( from here al least  ) to say that's a happy man engaged with the woman he loves, then... as well I could be wrong 'cause is not someone I know or a friend!
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mr.az
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 21:47 |
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police-i found a piece of gold of this size
jay kay-holy shit, stop to talkin with me, go to arrest blair or something''
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Samiroquai
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| Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 23:02 |
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| Space Clav wrote: |
| EvoV wrote: |
| jay got a wedding ring? or im wrong? |
In some countries wedding rings are worn on the right hand... I know they to that in Norway. Not sure about the UK though. |
No, in the UK they're worn on the left hand. But some men (including me) wear a ring (NOT a wedding ring) on the same finger of their right hand. Mine's a signet ring my parents bought me for my 18th birthday (I'm not big on jewellery apart from that, though). Jay's might be something similar, or it might just be a ring he bought that he likes...
It may be that we didn't notice before because speaking from experience, they can cause a LOT of feedback if you're holding a microphone whilst wearing one, so maybe he takes it off for gigs...
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andrew_j
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Some of you may find this a little hard to swallow, but the clips online only give you a taster of what really happened that night. Thanks to a TV contact of mine, I've seen the whole sequence, which lasts about 20 minutes from Jay leaving the club to being driven off in the police van. A neutral observer would probably say that on this occasion the blame was entirely with Jay. Granted, in the clips online the photographers are laughing and calling Jay names, but when you see the complete clip you realise that was only after they had endured 10 minutes of threats, (extremely) personal abuse and violence from Jay - without doing or saying anything to provoke him. In his defence, he was very obviously so far gone as to have little comprehension as to what he was doing or saying. However, that is only a defence if he regrets what he said and did...
I also think a more measured approach is necessary when we talk about the paparazzi as being "evil". No doubt many of Jay's fans enjoy looking at pictures of him, but only complain when the pictures make him look bad. Unfortunately, you can't have it both ways!
There is a very interesting book called "Paparazzi" (by Peter Howe) which does not defend what they do, but sets out to take an objective look at their profession and our obsession with celebrity. Here's a quote for you:
"The aspect of the paparazzi which fascinates me is the hypocrisy with which their activities are viewed - that moral shroud under which we try to hide our guilty pleasures. Society's attitude towards them and their work is a bit like the famous saying about a certain restaurant that nobody goes to any more because it's too crowded. If everybody hates their work, why are they the best-paid and busiest photojournalists in the world?
"This was particularly apparent after the tragedy of Princess Diana's death in 1997, when some of their most vociferous critics were the same people who had made a fortune publishing pictures of the princess. The angriest mourners among the general public, those who most blamed the photographers for her death, were the same people who had purchased the magazines and newspapers that published paparazzi photos of her when she was alive - and it was the intimate glimpses of her life that these pictures gave to readers that made their grief so strong when she died."
"That the paparazzi make the live of celebrities more difficult is obvious, but the relationship between the two groups is more complex than that. An interdependency develops between them, and performers' need for publicity on the way up is replaced for disdain for it when fame is achieved - only to be courted again on the way down. Once the genie of fame is out of the bottle of obscurity, you're a public figure forever, and only failure can return you to your former state." |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:19 |
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| My opinions are really changing about Jay.....I agree with what CG has just said.....very scary indeed...... |
Same here... I am speechless. |
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lilyjammer
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@andrew–j... I'd like to respond to your defence of the paparazzi - you know, those hard working photographers earning an honest living by fulfilling our desire for pictures of our favourite celebrities by bugging their homes (eg Nicole Kidman), chasing them in cars (eg Diana) or publishing photos of their children when repeatedly and politely asked not to (eg Ewan McGregor). I'm not saying they don't have a market for their wares, and that they are only fulfilling the desires of the publishers of the trash magazines to increase their sales figures, but they help to create the market and feed it. The world would not come to an end without their demise, and neither would the careers of the celebrities they target. |
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jamirokaki
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:46 |
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exactly
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| Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:49 |
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and we are still talking about it....they won won won
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andrew_j
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@lillyjammer - I wasn't defending the paparazzi, simply trying to take a more objective view and get a few things in perspective.
It's easy to attack the whole industry as being meaningless and driven by money - which of course it is - but then ultimately, so are a lot of professions. For better or for worse, this is where society is at right now.
I agree with you that the world would not come to an end, but let's be realistic, that's not going to happen. The growth of celebrity culture shows no signs of abating and we're all culpable - the photographers, the media, the public, and yes - to an increasing degree - the stars themselves. Jay seems shrewd enough to realise the value of this kind of publicity - at least, when he's sober and in the mood for it. Take for example the recent pictures of the Runaway video shoot that appeared in the national press. Strange co-incidence that photographers were at an out of town petrol station at 4am on a sunday morning... |
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lilyjammer
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Of course celebrities rely on the press to gain publicity, and when it works as it should they have a symbiotic relationship - the celebrities need the photographers to give them publicity and the paparazzi need the celebrities to make money. But so often the relationship does not work like that (and I'm not condemning the industry as a whole) and it becomes parasitical, with the paparazzi feeding off the celebrities. There is a very big difference between management announcing to a few preferred photographers that a band will be filming their video at a certain time and place, and a photographer trawling through some hapless starlet's rubbish bin in search of juicy scandal. When someone invites you over for dinner it doesn't mean you have the right to help yourself to their pantry! It is an abuse of the relationship between celebrity and media (and I don't deny that it happens both ways!).
Unfortunately yes, society is in that sad place right now. But that doesn't mean we should condone it. |
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papboy01
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 20:24 |
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clearly Jay Kay realises that the only way he can get any publicity these days is by resorting to this kind of behavior... what a dick. |
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herored
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| Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 22:08 |
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Why would he want to do that.He was drunk as wood and stoned as the sky.So I highly doubt it was on purpose. |
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